I am an 18 year old natural bodybuilder that is fairly advanced in training and muscularity for my age. I am no where near a plateau but was looking for something to give me an extra edge. I foung it in vanadyl sulfate. This mineral is a GDA or glucose disposal agent. When I eat upwards of 600 grams of carbs I tend to get somewhat bloated. When I started taking 20 mg VS before every meal the bloating stopped and it seemed as if all carbs went into the muscle. I looked up some sudies and vanadyl acts as insulin in the body actually putting glucose into muscles. Workouts and pumps are the best they have ever been and post workout I eat 400 grams of pasta with 40 mg of VS before and I can honestly say there is no fat gain.