PH Cycle Help.

[ultra40]

I just finished playing college football and I am currently cutting cleanly ( Dieting, conditioning, and lipodene) to shed some of the weight that i was forced to gain over the last few years. I was 245 in January and i am 230 now, and i am down from 13.5% bodyfat to 10. I am close to finishing cutting and i want to cycle a PH when i am finished and i would like to know which PH i should choose to build muscle and weight back up while maintaining a low BF% ( Basically which one has dryer gains) and i would like to use a OTC Pct(Nolva) Even if i have to sacrifise some of the results. So if anyone can help just point me towards a dry PH with less harsh side effects to where i will be fine running a Nolva pct and of course i'll be running HBerry, Mt, and all the supporting supps. Thanks!
(Ps... I am atleast 3 weeks before running anything so I am open to critisism and any more ideas...I have ready many posts and studied up on information over the last few years so i have a good feel what i am doing and i'm only seeking advice for what compounds would work best for what i would like to do and have previously explained.)

Anavar by hi tech
methyl vol by est
phera vol by est
methyl stack by anabolic formulation
trena plex by anabolic formulation


Anavar

ANAVAR Supplement Facts:
Serving Size 3 Tablets
Servings Per Container 60
Proprietary Blend With Extend-Rxâ„¢ Technology: 1900mg
S-(2 Boronethyl) L-Cysteine HCL, 2-(S)-Amino-6-Boronohexanoic Acid, Creatine Ethyl Ester, Creatine Monohydrate, L-Arginine HCL, Inosine Ethyl Ester, Adenosine Triphosphate, 25R Spirosten-5A-Diol-6-One-3-One, Dehydroepiandrosterone Acetate, Dehydroepiandrosterone Cypionate, Dehydroepiandrosterone Propionate, Dehydroepiandrosterone Enanthate, Smilagenin, Hecogenin Acetate, 6-Keto-Diosgenin Cypionate, 6-Keto-Diosgenin Propionate, 6-Keto Diosgenin Acetate 20-HydroxyEcdysone Deconate, Naringen, 6,7 Dihydroxy Bergamottin, Quebracho Blanco HCL.


Methyl Vol


80 Caplets
Supplement Facts
Serving Size1Capsule
Servings Per Container80

Amount Per Serving % DV*

Methyl Vol 10mg *
(2-Alpha-17 Alpha-Dimethyl-5-Alpha-Androst-3-One)

Vaso Plex (Nitric Oxide & Lean Muscle Modulator) 10mg *
A-HCL (L-Arginine HCL), AEE (L-Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL), Malic Acid, Bio-Stat (Piper Nigrum)

Liver Dex (Cleansing Matrix) 210mg *
Milk Thistle, Red Beet Root, Black Chohosh Root

* Daily Value not established

Other Ingredients
Magnesium Stearate

phera vol

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per container: 75
Amount Per Serving
Phera-Vol 15mg
17a-methyl-etioallochan-2-ene-17-b-ol
17-methyl-delta-2-etioallochane


methyl stack

Methyl-STAK Facts:
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 60 Capsules
Amount Per Serving
Methyl-Plex Anabolic Stack
M1,4-ADD(17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol) 30 mg
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 25mg
Milk Thistle 150 mg

Trena- plex
TrenaPLEX Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 90
Amount Per Serving
TrenaPLEX Anabolic Stack
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 25mg
6,7 dihydroxybergamottin (DHB) 150mg

[AaronJM1984]

I just finished up a 4 weeker of methyl vol, dropped 1-2 % bodyfat, and gained 6 pounds. Strength went up a lot, I'm one week into PCT right now, my strength has gone down alittle bit, but I'm still a lot stronger than I was to begin with. All in all I am happy with the results. Oh yeah, I'm using Liqui Tamox from Lion and LG Science Formadrol for PCT. I'd def. recommend Methyl Vol, the only reason I'm not gonna get some more is cuz I got some AAS on the way.

P.S. The 80 capsules lasted me one cycle, I started the cycle at 20mg, then ended at 40mg.

[ultra40]

Yeah i have heard it was a Sd clone i just wasn't sure if i should risk running it with nolva. I'll Get Tamox or clomid if i have no choice because i am not stupid, i'd just rather not.

[AaronJM1984]

Yeah i have heard it was a Sd clone i just wasn't sure if i should risk running it with nolva. I'll Get Tamox or clomid if i have no choice because i am not stupid, i'd just rather not.

I wouldn't run a serm with it, just for PCT, yeah it is a Superdrol clone

[ultra40]

Any suggestions?

[ultra40]

Anyone have any experience with any of these PH's??

[Mbuffguy]

tren and mass thats what u want

[ultra40]

Thanks!

[number twelve]

why are you willing to lose the gains you made by not running a proper pct?

[AaronJM1984]

why are you willing to lose the gains you made by not running a proper pct?

I dunno if you were asking me, in case you were, I told him to use Tamox for PCT, but not during cycle

[ultra40]

Thats why i was asking which one would be the least likely to lose gains from by using an OTC pct. It wasnt a hard question i just do not know how to read and relate all the chemicals to other PH's. It was a curious question, if you didnt wanna answer it then why even respond?

[AaronJM1984]

Thats why i was asking which one would be the least likely to lose gains from by using an OTC pct. It wasnt a hard question i just do not know how to read and relate all the chemicals to other PH's. It was a curious question, if you didnt wanna answer it then why even respond?

no matter what prohormone, pro steroid, or AAS you use, you will lose like 95 % gains without a proper PCT, OTC PCTs are crap

[ultra40]

Oh i understand aaron i wasn't addressing you at all, you were helpful, i just dont like the smarta$$ answers when i also have a good base of knowledge, just not on chemical make-up like some of the guys who can know which PH relates to another just based loking at its makeup..... I ran PPlex awhile back and did OTC pct with tribulus and was on all the right support supps and kept the gains and was very satisfied...And i understand Pplex is fairly weak compared to other PH's so i was looking for something similar just for my own knowledge.

[AaronJM1984]

Oh i understand aaron i wasn't addressing you at all, you were helpful, i just dont like the smarta$$ answers when i also have a good base of knowledge, just not on chemical make-up like some of the guys who can know which PH relates to another just based loking at its makeup..... I ran PPlex awhile back and did OTC pct with tribulus and was on all the right support supps and kept the gains and was very satisfied...And i understand Pplex is fairly weak compared to other PH's so i was looking for something similar just for my own knowledge.

I'm glad you managed to keep your gains, alittle suprised though, Pheraplex def. isn't a weak PH, a lot of people claim the sides on Pheraplex are worse than Superdrol. If I were you, I'd go with a Superdrol or Halodrol clone, check out Competitive Edge Labs products. You can buy their stuff pretty cheap on the internet, like 30 bucks.

[ultra40]

Thanks, If i did go with an SD i would Def. go with clomid or another real PCT because i know better than to chance it. I prob. did just get lucky with the PP so i wouldn't risk it again.