Fat burner or NOT

**BigPimpin76** · 04-30-2008, 08:27 AM

I am cutting at the moment. The only problem is that I feel it takes so long for me to cut naturally. I have a good diet based on 2400 cals a day.
I folow it ok. My question is if I should ad some Eca or any other fat burner to help aid in the progress?
My only problem is that I dont like that jittery feeling.
Or do you bros get used of the products after a while?
Thanks in advance

**BigPimpin76** · 04-30-2008, 09:37 AM

bump

**mkcay7979** · 04-30-2008, 10:13 AM

Lipoflame Works good I have been using for a couple months.

**BigPimpin76** · 04-30-2008, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by mkcay7979

Lipoflame Works good I have been using for a couple months.

Does Lipflame cause the jitters?

**BigPimpin76** · 04-30-2008, 06:41 PM

My question is if it is harder to cut fat doing it naturally or is fatburner really needed?
I have noticed that it takes for ever to cut fat. Could this be true?

**loftros** · 04-30-2008, 08:19 PM

lipoflame or clen is your best bet

**BigPimpin76** · 05-01-2008, 09:20 AM

bump

**ChuckLee** · 05-01-2008, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by loftros

lipoflame or clen is your best bet

He's asking for supplement, not chemicals though.

**ChuckLee** · 05-01-2008, 09:26 AM

Hydroxycut hardcore could help, but these supplements won't work if your diet isn't really in check as you said.

CL

**BigPimpin76** · 05-01-2008, 07:08 PM

My diet is almost spot on. I fluctuate on it every once in a while.
I have Xenadrine Hardcore.
Will It work just the same?

**AverageWorkouts** · 05-01-2008, 08:11 PM

I recomend Hydroxycut Hardcore. My diet wasnt bad but it was a little off and I still saw great results with this prodcut AND working out.

I cant really describe how it helps. Sometimes it turns 1 pound lost into 2 or sometimes it just feels like it cures your food cravings. All i know is I noticed its effects and it helped me lose a good amount of weight.

**BigPimpin76** · 05-01-2008, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by AverageWorkouts

I recomend Hydroxycut Hardcore. My diet wasnt bad but it was a little off and I still saw great results with this prodcut AND working out.

I cant really describe how it helps. Sometimes it turns 1 pound lost into 2 or sometimes it just feels like it cures your food cravings. All i know is I noticed its effects and it helped me lose a good amount of weight.

Interesting, did you get that hyper feeling or did you get used to it?
I might try it out. Problem is that I do cutting naturally and it seems it takes forever!!

**BigPimpin76** · 05-01-2008, 09:09 PM

Does anyone had good results using Hydroxycut? or is it the same as Xenadrine?
Do you bros think I should ad some of these product insted of cutting naturally?
I just think it takes forever going diet and cardio.

**BigPimpin76** · 05-02-2008, 10:30 AM

bump

**teufelhundenjwa** · 05-02-2008, 10:54 AM

Have you tried zig-zagging your carb intake? I'm fond of the 3 low, 1 high. This has always worked for me.

**BigPimpin76** · 05-02-2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by teufelhundenjwa

Have you tried zig-zagging your carb intake? I'm fond of the 3 low, 1 high. This has always worked for me.

Can you explain this to me closer casue I dont understand.

**teufelhundenjwa** · 05-02-2008, 11:16 AM

Sure thing mang. I run my "zig-zag" in 4 day intervals. On days 1 thru 3, I allow myself a low amount of carbs. Seeing as how I'm very carb sensitive, I have only 100g carbs. This is split into 2 meals. My pre/post workout meal.
On the high carb day I allow myself 200-300g carbs, but limit the fat intake.

Low Carb day 1 thru 3 example:
Pre Work-Out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Post Work-out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Meal 3: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies
Meal 4: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies
Meal 5: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies
Meal 6: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies

High carb day 4 example:
Pre Work-Out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Post Work-out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Meal 3: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs
Meal 4: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs, green veggies
Meal 5: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs
Meal 6: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs, green veggies

Zig-Zag Rules:
1) 3 days low carb, high protein, moderate fat
2) On high carb days, remove the fat and replace with carbs
3) Repeat

Clear as mud now?

**BigPimpin76** · 05-02-2008, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by teufelhundenjwa

Sure thing mang. I run my "zig-zag" in 4 day intervals. On days 1 thru 3, I allow myself a low amount of carbs. Seeing as how I'm very carb sensitive, I have only 100g carbs. This is split into 2 meals. My pre/post workout meal.
On the high carb day I allow myself 200-300g carbs, but limit the fat intake.

Low Carb day 1 thru 3 example:
Pre Work-Out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Post Work-out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Meal 3: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies
Meal 4: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies
Meal 5: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies
Meal 6: 35g protein, 14g fat, green veggies

High carb day 4 example:
Pre Work-Out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Post Work-out: 50g simple carbs, 30g protein
Meal 3: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs
Meal 4: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs, green veggies
Meal 5: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs
Meal 6: 35g protein, 50g complex carbs, green veggies

Zig-Zag Rules:
1) 3 days low carb, high protein, moderate fat
2) On high carb days, remove the fat and replace with carbs
3) Repeat

Clear as mud now?

Clean and clear as mud bro..thanks