Strongest Legal Supps?

[hldr1027]

I have run alot of Prohormone supps and Creatine/Nitro mixes etc but which is the strongest legal gear you can buy???

The best results I ever got was on 17b-methoxy-trenbolone and Testosterol which is polish so no idea whats in it but it seemed to do the job!

Aslo have run ZMA & Tribulus but didn't find it did much but give me extra engergy, anyone got gains from using it?

[bigpimpnyc]

I like MASS TABS. Also Spawn. If you do a google search you can find them, but make sure you get the original Mass Tabs formula.

[hldr1027]

Yeah I've heared Mass Tabs are good, some people on hear are saying you can't get them anymore but you can on the site i shop on and aslo get there PCT product as well!

I have just order some Superdrol & Methly 1 test as I'm told this is good shit so once I've tryed that I may try these mass tabs, I'm after something for bulking up, want to put on about another 10 pounds!

[warchild]

i keep hearing about xtreme tren

[hldr1027]

Yeah me too, nearly bought it off ebay, you can get it for £20 about $40, there is a guy that posted a cycle log on here about it, he was getting ok gains, about 4-5 pounds I think but then seemed to loose most of it when he went on to h-drol in his third or forth week!

[spywizard]

i'm running trenabol right now as a review, we'll see how it goes..

[hldr1027]

Is Trenbol (17b-methoxy-trenbolone) as I am running this right now for the second time under the brand name Methoxy-Tren from ALRI???

[AUb27]

Aslo have run ZMA & Tribulus but didn't find it did much but give me extra engergy, anyone got gains from using it?

ZMA gives me great sleeps when I first start taking it then I think i get used to it. ZMA will only help you if you are already a conditioned athlete: read this, http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_54769123 I beleive that ZMA helps me so I take it every night. Tribulis on the other hand.. I can 100% atest to the libido enhancing effects of Trib. Harder erections, can go longer, and semen is much whiter (not sure why). GF loves it tho. As far as affecting me in the gym.. I cannot say that it does help me, but iv always taken it w/ other sups too, and i cannot say that it doesnt. Either way, ill take it cus of its real affects, and if it helps me in the gym then im not complaining!

[Gaspari1255]

Spawn = Extreme Tren + Havoc...great PH, best I have ever used..Give it a shot.

[jg42058p]

the legal "prohormones" like superdrol and it's clones are basically just steroids so it would obviously be one of them

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

SD

Mass Tabs

Epistane

[kickinit]

Anyone ever heard of growth factor-1? No its not roids, but I found it on a cool webpage.

[Gaspari1255]

Anyone ever heard of growth factor-1? No its not roids, but I found it on a cool webpage.

It has piqued my interest but is probably a bunch of bs. Someone else can try it and tell me about it lol.

[Reed]

All these names mean nothing to me without the compound on the back. Put those down with the Growth Factor and I'll see what I can do

[shockwayve3000]

i liked decabolen and 6oxo...anybody else have luck with these...

[shockwayve3000]

decabolen:
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol (Halodrol-50),
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one (Superdrol)
2-ene 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol (Phera-Plex)
Amount Per Serving:
Decabolen Blend 45mg
2-ene(17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol) 10mg
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol 25mg
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one 10mg

[shockwayve3000]

6OXO:

6-OXO™
(4-etioallocholen-3,6, 17-trione)
300mg

[Reed]

decabolen:
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol (Halodrol-50),
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one (Superdrol)
2-ene 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol (Phera-Plex)
Amount Per Serving:
Decabolen Blend 45mg
2-ene(17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol) 10mg
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol 25mg
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one 10mg

Horrible Horrible product. Can you say good bye liver values and hello jaudice. Never ever take anything stacked like that

[shockwayve3000]

so what about liver care tablets...do they help at all?...also...this seems to be one of the hardest things about taking supps....finding what the balance is between what you take and what you gain off of it...man..you got to be a friggin chemist to figure this stuff out it seems.

[Reed]

it will help but probably won't do enough to matter whatsoever. Not only liver values but your entire blood work would be out of whack. Think about 3 17a methlys in one product. Thats like taking dbol, anadrol, and winstrol together but probably worse!!!!! Anytime you have any questions just let me know, there is enough research on the products that can let you know what it is. A lot of false advertisement by the companies on certain products and what they convert to. Just research the hell out of the products and if you can't figure it out, come ask and I'll see what I can do for you

[Reed]

BTW I look and read a lot of Patrick Arnold's pages and this is where I get my info. He is the father of prohormones if you didn't know. I know a little about the chemistry but not even anywhere close to him.

[shockwayve3000]

thanks....disappointing to a degree since I saw nice gains off my first cycle of it and am a week into the second. So...I guess back to the original reason this thread was started...what are the strongest legal "PH" you can get without being added to the liver transplant list? And speaking of research...man...it seems like I've been researching this stuff since 1AD was supposed to be the latest and greatest...but the research continues....

[shockwayve3000]

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[yowhatupU]

Spawn, H-drol, S-drol. Epistane might work pretty well too. For the most part, the clones out there all work well, it's just a matter of how much you are willing to damage your liver.

[shockwayve3000]

i don't drink and am in good health.....taking a liver cleanser has to help....size and strength are my goal for now...i'm 5'6" with 15% BF @ 190 lbs..my goals is to eventually stay around the same weight i am now..(200 would be nice), but with a BF% around 8-10... its a goal. anyway... thanx for the post... i've researched this out a bit on this site, and it seems like people will talk till the cows come home about AAS but not so much with legals...so is the main problem with these the strain on your liver? and how much "damage" is damage? if your not cycling ALL the time, does it impact that organ that much?

[MalibuD]

I took Xtreme Tren and I was amazed at the results, I put on alot of weight and my strength went way up. You definately have to take an estrogen blocker though, My nipples hurt like hell after about two to three weeks. You should also take liver cleanser with it. My buddies have been taking something called M drol and P plex . Its a stack and they like it alot better than the Tren, I also read alot of forums and everyone seems to feel the same way, but you definately need a estro block and a liver cleanse.

[phinzfan79]

What about Tren Xtreme from American Cellular Labs? I have used it before and saw great gains. I took 3 servings a day at 30mg a piece. The compounds on the back are as followed:

19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione

Is there something stonger/better out there? Also, what should I be stacking this with?

[RATTLEHEAD]

Halo Tren 400 yielded great results. i'll let you know how much of the gains i keep in 4 weeks, so far so good though. the only problem i had was a serious libido loss toward the last 2 weeks. Tribulus and Maca should take care of that when it gets here this week though.

[MalibuD]

My bad, It is Tren Xtreme and it is made by cellular labs. I had incredible gains, everyone at the gym thought I was on Juice. One of the cheaper knockoffs is called extreme tren for about 40 buck and my buddies bought it by mistake and werent happy with it.

[jbran23]

I have been hearing from alot of people on here about Tren Xtreme and started looking it up. It seems like it is fairly hard to find. The Cellular Labs homesite had it and another site I saw had it but it said it was for in-store purchase only. The exact statement went as follows...

"Please Note: The DEA has classified TREN Xtreme as a Schedule III Anabolic Steroid Under the Controlled Substances Act, and this product is expected to be removed from the shelves in the coming weeks. ******** does not condone the use of illegal substances, and TREN Xtreme has NOT yet been classified as such by LAW"

Anyone else hear anything like this yet? Should I try to snatch some up now and maybe stock up?

[Gaspari1255]

I have been hearing from alot of people on here about Tren Xtreme and started looking it up. It seems like it is fairly hard to find. The Cellular Labs homesite had it and another site I saw had it but it said it was for in-store purchase only. The exact statement went as follows...

"Please Note: The DEA has classified TREN Xtreme as a Schedule III Anabolic Steroid Under the Controlled Substances Act, and this product is expected to be removed from the shelves in the coming weeks. ******** does not condone the use of illegal substances, and TREN Xtreme has NOT yet been classified as such by LAW"

Anyone else hear anything like this yet? Should I try to snatch some up now and maybe stock up?

PH's are always getting pulled off of the shelf. Then, some company add's more milk thistle to it, changes the name, then you're in business for a while.

[phinzfan79]

So what about Spawn by Myogenix? It's the same thing as Tren Extreme except it has something else in it. Here are the two side-by-side... does anyone know what the benefit of the second string is in Spawn compared to Tren?

Tren Extreme - 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione
Spawn - 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione & 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol 8mg

[Gaspari1255]

It is more powerful..it also has Havoc in it. Unreal supplement.

[phinzfan79]

That's what it looks like; however, does anyone actually know what the second string is?

[SuppAddict]

My bad, It is Tren Xtreme and it is made by cellular labs. I had incredible gains, everyone at the gym thought I was on Juice. One of the cheaper knockoffs is called extreme tren for about 40 buck and my buddies bought it by mistake and werent happy with it.

Tren Xtreme is a knock off itself ... the first one was only available in mexico and it is still available here (for now). But its like $150 per 90 tabs.

[MalibuD]

If you have a Maxx Muscle store anywhere near you, that is where I picked mine up. Hell I better go pick up all they have left before you cant get them again. There is another supplement out there my buddies are taking and they like it better than tren with better results, its called m drol and p plex. It is two different items and you stack them. They got it at tfsupplements.com Everyone in their forum liked it better also. It was only 50 bucks for both.