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    What is a good PH cycle for bulking?

    Ok so I have ran superdrol before and phera. My question is what is the best stack of PHs that can add some good mass? I have clomid and nolva and all that for pct just need to know some good PHs for bulking.

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    On day 5 up 5 lbs and alot stronger

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    no intentions of jacking this thread, i may actually help it out, but ive been looking for a complete PH list with a detailed analysis of each. I cant find a really good one. can someone post a link if you know of one? thanks.

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    Extreme tren , methyl v test, vaso test, or mass pills i have taken all and had about the same gains with them. Usually around 15 pds. but then i never cycle off right so i lose it all. But those are the best ph's in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RATTLEHEAD View Post
    no intentions of jacking this thread, i may actually help it out, but ive been looking for a complete PH list with a detailed analysis of each. I cant find a really good one. can someone post a link if you know of one? thanks.
    Nomenclature: 17b-methoxytrienosterone
    Pill size: 2mg
    Dosages: The label recommends 2-6mg daily, but many users report only noticing effects when dosed at 8-12mg.
    Side effects: Low liver toxicity. Some users say this is a libido killer, yet others say the exact opposite. Other users report sides of thinning hair/hair loss.
    Reputation: Seemingly underdosed, methoxy-TST could be considered an underrated designer, as many users have reported some substantial gains with higher dosages.

    Epistane/Havoc/Hemaguno/Methyl E
    Nomenclature: 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
    Pill Size: 10mg or 12.5mg depending on what brand you use
    Dosages: 20-50mg
    Side Effects: Milder on liver and lipid levels than other methyls. Known to dehydrate users causing back pumps.
    Reputation: There has had some spectroscopy and compound identification issues with these products, but from personal experience with it, is still a solid product. Many users have taken this compound as a solo run due to its extremely dry nature. It is also a popular compound for use with the 'pulse method' of taking orals. Users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass.

    Pheraplex/Phera Vol
    Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
    Pill Size: 10mg
    Dosages: 10-40mg
    Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound.
    Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix.

    Ergomax LMG
    Nomenclature: 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane isomers and 17a-methyl-5a-androst-3-ene-17b-ol
    Pill Size: 10mg
    Dosages: 10-40mg
    Side effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, may aggrevate gynecomastia.
    Reputation: Again pretty solid for bulking. Users can expect similar gains as with pheraplex.

    Superdrol, SD Clones
    Nomenclature: 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
    Pill size: 10mg
    Dosages: 10-30mg
    Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, back pumps, hair loss, in rare cases users report agrivation of gynecomastia with this compound.
    Reputation: Side effects vary from mild to extremely harsh, so use caution if planning your first run. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting. Explosive strength gains. This is a methylated form of Drostanolone (Masteron )

    Methoxy-TRN (Trenadrol)
    Nomenclature: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone
    Pill size: 3mg (trenadrol is 30mg on bottle, however same deal)
    Dosages: 1.5-6mg (trenadrol dosed 30mg - 90mg as high as 120mg)
    Side effects: Affects libido (some positively some negatively). May cause thinning hair/ hair loss, elevated blood pressure, aggression. Also another progestin.
    Reputation: This guy is a real hit or miss. Some users loved the stuff, while others did not notice anything from it. Noticed increases in strength as well as decreases in bodyfat.

    Halodrol-50, and Clones
    Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3,17-diol
    Pill Size: 50mg
    Dosages: 25-75mg
    Side effects: Heptatoxicity.
    Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle. This is a prosteroid of Turinabol .

    Prostanozol/ Orasan-E/Winztrol
    Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
    Pill size: 25mg
    Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this)
    Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss. Aggressiveness in some users.
    Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains. This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol ).

    Finigenix Magnum/Trenaplex
    Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
    Dosages: 50-75mg
    Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin (it can convert to trenbolone ). Expect tren -like sides.
    Reputation: Though there hasn't been much logged on this bad boy, those who've used it have liked it. This is a prohormone to Tren.

    Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene / 6-17 dihydroxyetiocholove-3-ol proponate
    Dosages: 1-2 caps daily
    Side effects: low side effects
    Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Non methyl status means that this product stacks well. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar.

    Max LMG / Revolt
    Nomenclature: 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
    Pill size: 25mg
    Dosages: 25-135mg daily
    Side effects: Can easily aggrevate gynecomastia. May be a libido killer. This is another progestin.
    Reputation: A bulking compound through and through. Users can expect great recovery, and wet gains.

    Nomenclature: 17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
    Dosages: 30-90mg daily
    Side effects: heptatoxicity, slight possibility to aggrevate gyno
    Reputation: Great for a bulk. Wet gains, and decent strength gains. This is a prohormone of Dianabol .

    1,4 AD / 1,4ADD / Bold
    Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
    Dosages: 300-800mg
    Side effects: Mild, acne, oily skin, MASSIVELY INCREASED APPETITE.
    Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone .

    Dosages: 25-75mg
    Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
    Side effects: heptatoxicity, back pumps
    Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.

    Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
    Pill Size: 7.5mg
    Dosages: 7.5-22.5mg daily
    Side effects: Heptatoxicity from 17a-methylation. Very low androgenic sides.
    Reputation: Despite popular belief, this is not the most myotrophic designer out there: it has the highest Q factor. It is actually only about 77% as myotrophic as the active present in Havoc/Epistane/Hemaguno. Users taking Oxyguno can expect mass gains as well as excellent fatloss. Due to it's incredibly low androgenic ratio, strength gains are not as pronounced.

    Furaguno/ Ortasan-A
    Pill Size: 33mg
    Nomenclature: 5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
    Dosages: 33-99mg daily
    Side Effects: very mild
    Reputation: Supposedly lowers cholesterol, increases androgenic receptor activity, and does not induce any heptatoxicity. This product is too young on the market to have developed a reputation yet. Get some, log it, and let us know so I can update this compound's profile. This is a prosteroid to furazabol.

    3-AD / 11-oxo
    Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme / Ergopharm
    Pill Size: 150mg
    Dosages: 450mg
    Nomenclature: andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione (all mean the same thing)
    Side effects: Mild
    Reputation: This prohormone has a great affinity for blocking up cortisol receptors. User's report great changes in body composition, namely significant fatloss.

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