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    PH for the first time

    Im 38 and looking to kick it up a notch. trenadrol/milk thistle/tribulus/novadex xt for pct. Any comments?? A friend also mentioned Epistane??

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    need to do more research

    need support supps, a proper pct, diet/training protocol to go along with it

    theres a GREAT sticky up on top by k.biz

    also read up on threads by upstatetank, k.biz and number 12

    then...

    get crazy and lift heavy schtuff !

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    Ive done my research for a few weeks and this is what I have come up with. training and diet is all dialed in. I was planning on running this cycle for 4 weeks. Taking the doses the way the bottles describe. Why not run novadex for pct??

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    also hawthorne berry for bp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsinc View Post
    Ive done my research for a few weeks and this is what I have come up with. training and diet is all dialed in. I was planning on running this cycle for 4 weeks. Taking the doses the way the bottles describe. Why not run novadex for pct??
    itd b like brining a knife to a gun fight

    trenadrol (really, any 'prohormone') are not prohormones in the least bit, they are REAL steroids

    steroids = suppress if not completely shut down hpta

    novedex = not gonna cut it to restart your hpta when pct starts--ive leared the hard way trying 6oxo following an m1t cycle...not fun in the least bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsinc View Post
    Ive done my research for a few weeks and this is what I have come up with. training and diet is all dialed in. I was planning on running this cycle for 4 weeks. Taking the doses the way the bottles describe. Why not run novadex for pct??
    also if you dont mind, can i take a peak at your diet/training protocol? maybe i can offer sum suggestionsz!

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    b-fast - 1/2 cup of oats/glass of water+multi+stress B+flax
    am snack - handfull of almonds,piece of fruit,sml yogurt, glass of water
    lunch - bowl of turkey chili with 4-5 egg whites, 2 glasses of water
    pm snack - handfull of almonds,kashi bar, glass of water
    training - followed immed. with pow shake and a banana
    dinner - chic, fish or lean steak with either steamed veggies or a salad, glass of water
    before bed - sml bowl of cottage cheese w/sugar free jelly+multi+flax

    training:

    mon and thur - chest/biceps/abs/cardio
    wed - legs/shoulders
    tues/fri - back/triceps/cardio
    sat/sun - off

    thats about it! I would love to try the PH road out but not until im completely ready educated. Any advice would be greatly appreciated...

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    Hello there,

    First, you need more reseach as said above.

    Trenadrol is Crap imo as far as PH are concerned...

    Then there is your diet... I think it would work great... If you were a 13yr old girl looking to bulk up a little

    But seriously, I dont know your experience... but if your trying to cut which I might assume from your diet then you might wana give furazadrol a try.
    Last edited by ACE5HIGH; 11-18-2008 at 11:03 PM.

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