B Complex or b12 Injections?

[VR4]

I want 2 things....a boost in energy, and increased appetite.
The b12 wil give me increased appetite (hopefully) and the b complex will give me energy.

If I just get the b12 will I still get the same boost in energy...or will I need all the other b vitamins in the complex as well?

[higherdesire]

I inject 500mcg ed of b12 but while my energy is sustained my appetite has not been measurably affected. Good luck.

[Flex-Appeal]

I take b12 compex injections ed. And appatite increase is a bit far fetched IMO. Results take time

[Phate]

i would just go with b-complex, you will still get 1000mcg/mL of cyanocobalamin(b12), plus you'll get the other b vitamins

[Flex-Appeal]

^I'm glad the smart guy agreed with me

[VR4]

i would just go with b-complex, you will still get 1000mcg/mL of cyanocobalamin(b12), plus you'll get the other b vitamins

I cant find that one....
The only site that i could find it on is out of stock now.

Do you know where else I can find that?

[VR4]

Ok I found a place that sells it...
But if I get that...then 1mg of it goes towards b12 only...and not much of the other b vitamins.
Think it would be ok to get a vial of b12 and a vial of b complex and mix them together? Or would that just be too much?

[Dizz28]

My B-Complex contains:

B1 12.5mg
B2 2mg
Niacin 12.5mg
B6 5mg
d-panthenol 5mg
B12 5mcg

all this per/ml in a 100ml jug

[Phate]

My B-Complex contains:

B1 12.5mg
B2 2mg
Niacin 12.5mg
B6 5mg
d-panthenol 5mg
B12 5mcg

all this per/ml in a 100ml jug

only 5mcg? or 5mg?

if it's 5mg did you get it without a script?

[Flex-Appeal]

It's 5mcg cause I have that same bottle cause the one I wanted has been out of stock for about 5 months now

[Phate]

mine has these stats

B1 12.5mg
B2 2mg
Niacin 12.5mg
B6 5mg
d-panthenol 5mg
B12 1000mcg

this is per mL

[Dizz28]

only 5mcg? or 5mg?

if it's 5mg did you get it without a script?

5mcg, No script. Although b12 has no known toxic dose, taking that much has no additional benifits. Your liver stores up to 6years worth of b12, once you've been taking it for a week or so you've pretty much got the gas tank full....

[Bradly1234]

your liver does store it but your body goes thru b12 rather quickly esp under stress and correct me if iam wrong but it is not as easy to incorporate b12 in a balanced diet as it is other vitamins and minerals. I have been getting a b12 shot once a month but maybe its a plecibo effect but it works better then a b complex for me.

[BrokenBricks]

your liver does store it but your body goes thru b12 rather quickly esp under stress and correct me if iam wrong but it is not as easy to incorporate b12 in a balanced diet as it is other vitamins and minerals. I have been getting a b12 shot once a month but maybe its a plecibo effect but it works better then a b complex for me.

I am curious where you got the information that your body uses its stores of B12 quickly.

[ericm6901]

my vitamin contains 17mg or b-2 and my piss is neon yellow enough to glow in the dark....

[Bradly1234]

I am curious where you got the information that your body uses its stores of B12 quickly.

my education, i am almost thru with my kiensology degree in nutrition and exercise. we have done some studies on a lot of vit's and esp under stress its easy for your body to deplete ur b12

[BrokenBricks]

my education, i am almost thru with my kiensology degree in nutrition and exercise. we have done some studies on a lot of vit's and esp under stress its easy for your body to deplete ur b12

I am just going to skip going into the facts about B12. Does the school you go to require you to be able to spell Kinesiology?

[IM708]

You body can store years and years worth of b12. If a person becomes b12 deficient due to their stomach lining just not having the ability to absorb it anymore they may not notice it's effects for years.

[jimmyinkedup]

I am just going to skip going into the facts about B12. Does the school you go to require you to be able to spell Kinesiology?

*LOL* - That was funny....

I also find it extremely funny that a doctor corrects grammar - talk about rare ...almost an oxymoron of sorts! (take that in the manner intended BB -humor)

[BrokenBricks]

You body can store years and years worth of b12. If a person becomes b12 deficient due to their stomach lining just not having the ability to absorb it anymore they may not notice it's effects for years.

No no, he is almost dun wit his degree n kinesyologe.

Anyway, the stomach doesn't absorb B12, the small intestine does. You are right in that the problem lies in the stomach. For B12 to be absorbed the stomach must produce intrinsic factor which binds the B12 for absorption by the ileum. Most importantly, you are right in that deficiency takes years to develop. But why bother? These guys "feel" it working.

[jimmyinkedup]

my vitamin contains 17mg or b-2 and my piss is neon yellow enough to glow in the dark....

Now BrokenBricks - How can you point out the spelling error ...and leave this amazing, scientific, foolproof evidence alone?

[BrokenBricks]

*LOL* - That was funny....

I also find it extremely funny that a doctor corrects grammar - talk about rare ...almost an oxymoron of sorts! (take that in the manner intended BB -humor)

Well I don't make a habit of correcting anything anyone does generally. But even though the level of discourse on this forum is beyond repair I refuse to have what ought to be, simply by virtue of subject matter, a scientific discussion bastardized by people too dumb to correctly spell the name of their own profession. It isn't like it was a slip of the fingers. Entire letters were missing.

Call me arrogant, but holy ****ing Christ on a pancake have some standards around here.

[jimmyinkedup]

Well I don't make a habit of correcting anything anyone does generally. But even though the level of discourse on this forum is beyond repair I refuse to have what ought to be, simply by virtue of subject matter, a scientific discussion bastardized by people too dumb to correctly spell the name of their own profession. It isn't like it was a slip of the fingers. Entire letters were missing.

Call me arrogant, but holy ****ing Christ on a pancake have some standards around here.

*LMAO* ....in this case im calling it funny ....period....

[BrokenBricks]

Now BrokenBricks - How can you point out the spelling error ...and leave this amazing, scientific, foolproof evidence alone?

Well to be fair, the guy didn't make any extravagant claims. He takes a vitamin and his pee looks fluorescent. I believe him. But to your point, 90% of the posts are complete trash in this sub forum so I filter most of it out.

[lawstudent007]

Since we're on this subject, I might as well ask here...

Many of the men post that B12 injections give them energy and increase their appetites. Yet, when I used to go to a weight loss doctor, he prescribed me diets pills and gave me B12 injections. So I'm a bit confused. Why would a weight loss Dr giving my appetite suppressants pills, give me B12 injections if they increase appetite? Anyone have any info on this?

[BrokenBricks]

Since we're on this subject, I might as well ask here...

Many of the men post that B12 injections give them energy and increase their appetites. Yet, when I used to go to a weight loss doctor, he prescribed me diets pills and gave me B12 injections. So I'm a bit confused. Why would a weight loss Dr giving my appetite suppressants pills, give me B12 injections if they increase appetite? Anyone have any info on this?

There is no evidence B12 increases appetite. Your doctor, knowing there is no danger to giving the shots, might be making sure that his patients who are decreasing their intake of food, maybe to the exclusion of good B12 sources, do not become deficient. More likely this guy is just preying on the myth that B12 provides some nebulous "energy" which people are willing to pay for. He might have good reason. He might be a fake doctor. He might be padding his bottom line. What he is *not* doing is stimulating your appetite.

[IM708]

No no, he is almost dun wit his degree n kinesyologe.

Anyway, the stomach doesn't absorb B12, the small intestine does. You are right in that the problem lies in the stomach. For B12 to be absorbed the stomach must produce intrinsic factor which binds the B12 for absorption by the ileum. Most importantly, you are right in that deficiency takes years to develop. But why bother? These guys "feel" it working.

Tanks for the corection, even geniuses like mwah can get they're facts's mixed up.

[MikeMilo]

I get B-12 HYDROXOCOBALAMIN 10,000mcg/ml injectable.

I used to really like it but after time it doesn't seem to do much good.

[Phate]

I get B-12 HYDROXOCOBALAMIN 10,000mcg/ml injectable.

I used to really like it but after time it doesn't seem to do much good.

from a ugl?(if so don't put the name)

[Bradly1234]

No no, he is almost dun wit his degree n kinesyologe.

Anyway, the stomach doesn't absorb B12, the small intestine does. You are right in that the problem lies in the stomach. For B12 to be absorbed the stomach must produce intrinsic factor which binds the B12 for absorption by the ileum. Most importantly, you are right in that deficiency takes years to develop. But why bother? These guys "feel" it working.

My bad bricks, I must have forgot the i. Any thing else you can correct becuase I could use grammer school when typing on an online thread.

[IM708]

I get B-12 HYDROXOCOBALAMIN 10,000mcg/ml injectable.

I used to really like it but after time it doesn't seem to do much good.

Seems like overkill IMO

[BrokenBricks]

My bad bricks, I must have forgot the i. Any thing else you can correct becuase I could use grammer school when typing on an online thread.

I could correct you all day, you know that. It is spelled "grammar".

[Bradly1234]

haha ok, done. but still interested in the b12 situation. got any good articles?

[IM708]

They don't exist, the only b12 studies i found were studies done on older people and b12 deficiency not younger people and studies done between energy levels vs b12 levels.

[Bradly1234]

then is bricks just being a big richard becuase i cant spell or does he know something about b12 non of us do?

[Phate]

then is bricks just being a big richard becuase i cant spell or does he know something about b12 non of us do?

he likes being a smartass

[BrokenBricks]

he likes being a smartass

I think people who talk the talk of science should demonstrate a certain amount of professionalism if they expect to be taken seriously. It is not asking to much for a person to be able to communicate coherently before taking their advice on which substances to inject into your body!

As Ironmaiden said there are no studies on young healthy meat eaters to indicate a benefit to B12 supplementation. The known effects of B12 deficiency such as megaloblastic anemia and peripheral neuropathy are not present in this population. Does that prove that there might not be some benefit to taking more? No it does not prove it. Yet if you made a habit of injecting yourself with every substance which had *no data* to support it's use well....you would not be in a great state of affairs.

[Bradly1234]

I wish I was as smart as you BrokenBricks, will you teach me your ways?

You’re providing no evidence that b12 doesn’t increase appetite nor increase energy are you?
You’re offal quick to jump on my case when there has been *no data* to support its use.

Does you body use more b12 while it’s under stress? Is it easy to incorporate in a diet without a supplement? How long does your body actually store it?

[IM708]

I wish I was as smart as you BrokenBricks, will you teach me your ways?

You’re providing no evidence that b12 doesn’t increase appetite nor increase energy are you?
You’re offal quick to jump on my case when there has been *no data* to support its use.

Does you body use more b12 while it’s under stress? Is it easy to incorporate in a diet without a supplement? How long does your body actually store it?

1. All vitamins/minerals tend to deplete under stress. 2. Very easy, eat meat. 3. Your body has stores that would last for up to a decade. 4. When taking B12 supps you're simply assuming that it's working. 5. There is no data that suggests that taking extra b12 as a young healthy person is beneficial. He's not providing evidence that it won't help and you have no evidence to say that it does help.

[lawstudent007]

Quick question everyone: What type of B12 is everyone using? Which type is best? Also, I usually get it at my diet doctor's office but that is before I moved out of state. I was told I can buy it online. Is it safe to buy online or is it just as dangerous as buying other "stuff"?