Ephedrine

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:39 AM

Has anyone ever used this product, if so how well did it work?
Did you stack it with anything such as Caffein, Asprin, or both?

Is this a good stack for just fat loss?

Thanks alot

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 04:11 PM

Ever heard of ECA stack?

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 05:08 PM

Yea I heard of it, but I don't know that much about it. What could I expect if I took it, and does it only burn fat, and no muscle?

**skeldno** · 03-02-2009, 05:17 PM

i gave my female friend some she went from a size 14 to a 10 in 2 weeks! she didnt eat for first 3 days then just ate at lunchtime for 2 weeks. I think thats prob the best result possible from any diet!!!!

Another friend of mine is on them but not lost much weight do to him thinking he can pig out on them and still loose weight lol

I once lost a lot of weight on them not sure how much tho think it was a few stone that was eca diet and cardio. pesonally i think eca is a miricle diet and suld be given to all the fat gits out there just to sort out this obesity eperdemic!!!!

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 05:19 PM

ECA - ephedra, caffeine, aspirine so it would be more effective if taken together. It's a good fat burner. Personally since I've used clen I won't even bother w/ it since it is way more expensive and requires you take 3 times a day vs once using an oral syringe. It can burn up muscle as well, your diet will determine how much though.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 09:13 PM

Ohh, alright, I really want to avoid losing muscle. Did you stack clen with anything? And what results did you get from it? Also, can you kind of explain to me what it is, I am only 18 but I am looking for a product that has low sides and that will burn fat and hopfully even build muscle at the same time. I am trying to gain about 10 more lbs of lean muscle while losing fat by around mid june, so i am just looking around for something that will help me out with that because it is a pretty tough goal.

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by theblueoak

Ohh, alright, I really want to avoid losing muscle. Did you stack clen with anything? And what results did you get from it? Also, can you kind of explain to me what it is, I am only 18 but I am looking for a product that has low sides and that will burn fat and hopfully even build muscle at the same time. I am trying to gain about 10 more lbs of lean muscle while losing fat by around mid june, so i am just looking around for something that will help me out with that because it is a pretty tough goal.

I'm 18 as well bro, first time I ran clen was when I was 17.

-I stacked clen with a harsh diet and vitamins/minerals
-About 20lbs in month and 1/2
-You won't be able to build muscle and lose fat at the same time if running a fat burner like clen or ECA stack. You should be able to maintain mostly all your mass but not build. You will have to run a steroid /prohormone product with it if you want a flicker of hope of building while cutting. The only other way is to have a tight diet and exercise routine and do it over a period of months.
-If you want low sides either run lower dosages or buy otc fat burners.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 09:52 PM

Ohhh alright,
What results did you get with Clen ? And do you need a PCT?

also are there any sides?

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by theblueoak

Ohhh alright,
What results did you get with Clen ? And do you need a PCT?

also are there any sides?

Clen is not a steroid so no pct. It's a research chem you can buy for dirt cheap via research chem sites. I'd suggest you do some research before you decide to run it so you know exactly what you are getting yourself in to.

My results i got I stated above: About 20lbs in month and 1/2

There are side effects. They are tolerable. tremors, racing heat, higher blood pressure, headaches nothing crazy.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:17 PM

Ha i forgot you said your results already.
Was it mainly bodyfat or was some muscle in there too? If so, how much muscle would you say?

Thanks for all the help

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:28 PM

A liquid using an oral syringe.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:32 PM

i took it out, do i read my PM's from my e-mail adress that i put into the site?

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:35 PM

U need 25 posts first but after you do you click my user name and click option: "send private message to ironmaiden708"

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:36 PM

ah, i sent you a PM, i guess it doesnt send till i have 25 posts either?

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:37 PM

nope dont have one from you.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:39 PM

O man, alright
well, while i wait for my 25 posts, was the weight lost mostly muscle? Also, did you maintain your strength?

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:40 PM

It was mostly fat weight maintained strength for most part.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:41 PM

alright, what weight did you start at? also, did you only run it for that month and a half?

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:44 PM

Don't make a thread in here to get your count up, bad move. Go to lounge and whore up in there if you feel like doing that.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:45 PM

yea i felt like that was a bad idea, how do i delete a threaD?

**IM708** · 03-02-2009, 10:45 PM

U can't mod will end up doing and may make a remark, not sure.

**theblueoak** · 03-02-2009, 10:48 PM

ohh k,

did you stack this with any other supps and what was ur starting weight before you ran it?

have you taken any other supps that you really liked?

and is that arnold's chest in your icon?