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  1. 03-15-2009, 08:04 AM #1
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    over the counter

    what is the best hands down over the counter on market today
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    otc product for what?

    can you be more specific?
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  3. 03-15-2009, 08:08 AM #3
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    well iwont to build size an lose fat
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    over the counter FOOD is the best to build size!!!

    and some over the counter cardio is great for burning fat !!
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  5. 03-15-2009, 08:20 AM #5
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    im sorry for the stupid questions im not ready for the real deal ive bought some anadrol an sustamed 250 an after find this site an at a glance if found that i have a lot to learn about gear ill be fourty in august an the thought of geting old scares the hell out of me an so does all of the threads that souround test use ive been working out for 7 mounths 5 days a week lifting an cardio but diet sucks cant stay of the crunch berrys at night need some guidence
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoned View Post
    im sorry for the stupid questions im not ready for the real deal ive bought some anadrol an sustamed 250 an after find this site an at a glance if found that i have a lot to learn about gear ill be fourty in august an the thought of geting old scares the hell out of me an so does all of the threads that souround test use ive been working out for 7 mounths 5 days a week lifting an cardio but diet sucks cant stay of the crunch berrys at night need some guidence
    You have to clean up your diet or you will be wasting a lot of time in the gym. Good decesion to hold off on the juice. 7 months is not nearly long enough of natural lifting before taking the plunge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoned View Post
    im sorry for the stupid questions im not ready for the real deal ive bought some anadrol an sustamed 250 an after find this site an at a glance if found that i have a lot to learn about gear ill be fourty in august an the thought of geting old scares the hell out of me an so does all of the threads that souround test use ive been working out for 7 mounths 5 days a week lifting an cardio but diet sucks cant stay of the crunch berrys at night need some guidence
    Well good thing you found this site, this is the best place for information on cycling, on top of ongoing advice and guidance.
    Can you give us a full description of yourself?

    Age:
    Height:
    Weight:
    bodyfat:
    Experience lifting:
    Supplements used:
    Goals:
    Diet:
    ..anything relative to why your here researching.
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  8. 03-15-2009, 08:30 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoned View Post
    im sorry for the stupid questions im not ready for the real deal ive bought some anadrol an sustamed 250 an after find this site an at a glance if found that i have a lot to learn about gear ill be fourty in august an the thought of geting old scares the hell out of me an so does all of the threads that souround test use ive been working out for 7 mounths 5 days a week lifting an cardio but diet sucks cant stay of the crunch berrys at night need some guidence
    I wasn't being a dick with you, i was being serious in a funny way

    Food is your best friend , better than most crappy supplements, if you just learn how to eat to grow and lose fat, that would be where I would spend my money

    same with training and cardio.
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  9. 03-15-2009, 08:35 AM #9
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    age 39
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    working on chest arms back just started abs 5 times aweek
    diet im trying to stay off the carbs
    carido 5 times a week
    need to lose belly fat an just wont to have good overall build
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    Whats your diet look like bro, can you list out a typical days intake (including the crunchberrys lol)?


    PS - I turned 37 today, so I'm a little sensitive about the age thing right now myself, so I feel ya on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoned View Post
    age 39
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    working on chest arms back just started abs 5 times aweek
    diet im trying to stay off the carbs
    carido 5 times a week
    need to lose belly fat an just wont to have good overall build
    so you do full body workouts 5 times a week excluding legs and shoulders or your in the gym 5x a week i dont understand. and why dont you do legs or shoulders? injuries? working your abs will make your stomach look bigger if you one of those guys who goes over the the crunch machine and does 175lbs lol, to have abs you just need low BF%, so be careful of the exercises your do for core. also you CANNOT lose fat in one spot, so just needing to lose BF on your belly means you need to drop overall BF%
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    special delivery just for you stoned: http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoned View Post
    age 39
    5.9
    200lbs
    working on chest arms back just started abs 5 times aweek
    diet im trying to stay off the carbs
    carido 5 times a week
    need to lose belly fat an just wont to have good overall build
    why trying to stay off carbs? You need carbs, good carbs with each meal

    you need to work on EACH body part , not just pick and choose the ones you want bigger...the body doesn't work that way. The more you strengthen your LEGS, the stronger the rest of you body becomes as well !!

    Legs are your foundation, weak foundation , weak building, strong foundation....well you get the idea
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