weight gainers supplemt question

[Godson]

I checked out the weight gainers and for the most part

they all have around
5g of fat
60+g of protein

and like 200-400 carbs


i dont understand, if a diet is suppose to be

40% 40% 20 % for example is a standard bulking

why is the break down in these gainers like
20%protein 75%carb 5%fat

should i ever dare to take this bottle of carbs ?
3500 ccals of straight foods is insane

[ottomaddox]

Using a 40 40 20 ratio, design your own bulking shakes with only natural ingredients, ie whey, natty peanut butter, other nut butters, oats, fresh fruit, etc..........

[j4ever41]

Using a 40 40 20 ratio, design your own bulking shakes with only natural ingredients, ie whey, natty peanut butter, other nut butters, oats, fresh fruit, etc..........

agreed

[Godson]

thats a pretty damn good idea, any opinions on what to put in this baby ?

or maybe other threads that mention it ?

[j4ever41]

otto told you what to put in it. i dont mix them up to often but when i do,i use oats,whey/casein,naturally more pb and sometimes a banana. yes i think there are other threads about this.

[Godson]

thing is i need weight gainers, like around 700-1000 cals

cant get that from those items

[j4ever41]

why do you need so many cals from shakes? It depends on how much you use to what you get, you could use 1.5 cups oats,2 tbls pb,2 scoops of pro, those 3 items with those amount will bring you about 850 cals with water want more add milk

[Godson]

i take in 2310 calories from my diet now

and im switching to bulking so i gotta throw in like 1200 more - 3500 calorie diet daily

and when i look at what i eat now, finding out a way to get that much off regular food will be pretty difficult. its not that i wouldnt do it, its just im not sure what i could eat to find that many cals

when you say oats, you just mean that tradition oatmeal that comes from the tube, with the old man on it ?

and is natty peanut butter, the same as just regular peanut butter

[j4ever41]

yep just oven toasted oats,natty peanut butter look up naturally more and smart balance

[Godson]

i never use oats ever for anything, i just throw them in dry in the blender with whey.pb, milk and blend away? or do i oven toast them first?

[quadsofsteel]

hey man.... id stay the hell away from those weight gainers. too expensive for the amount of servings they give u and its probly all friggin sugar carbs. you can definately do a whole lot better with whole complex carbohydrates.

I did the whole weight gainer thing once........and got fat really fast.

[j4ever41]

they already toasted just throw everything in blender also throw some ice in too

[Godson]

alright this is what i came up

Food ---------------------------Calories----Protein-----Carb-----Fat
2 cups of slim milk 250 18 24 5
1 1/2 cup of oats 450 15 81 4.5
1 tablespoon peanut butter 95 7 7 8
3 scoops of whey 330 60 12 4.5
--------------------------------------
Total : 1125 cals 100g(36%) 124g(44%) 22g (18%)


alright this is the cloest i could come to 40 40 20

i had to cut the peanut butter to 1 tablespoon instead of 2 cause the split would have been 30% 40% 30%

it sucks i gotta do 3 scoops of whey protein, i would really like to replace a scoop or two with a food.. but i have no clue where i could get 20g protein with low carb/fat
any ideas?

with 2 scoops of protein the split becomes 31% 47% 18%
i would really like that protein to be higher than 31% somehow , cant think of a food to replace 1 cup of whey


taking 5 scoops of whey daily (3 w/shake , and 2 w/PWO) would be harsh ..

help !

[j4ever41]

if you like cottage cheese you could trade with that,lets see i think 1/2 cup is a serving so 3/4 cup should give you about 20 grams of pro,8-10 carbs and with 2% about 3-4 grams of fat,you probably would not taste in there.

[Godson]

yea i do like cottage cheese actually, i eat it daily.. seems like an insane mix lol ..

but i really dont wanna do 3 scoops of whey in it .. i may try the cottage cheese ..ill let u guys know how it taste

thanks j4

[Godson]

when should i drink this monstrous shake?
i was thinkin about spliting it into 2, drinking it at different times


i dont really wanna drink it PWO, cause im gonna do my usual 2 scoops of whey+water.

any ideas

[j4ever41]

yeah your gonna have about 1200 cals in there i would split it,just plug it in 1.5-2 hours before and after you eat,sometimes when i get up to go to work and dont have much time thats when i will hit an oats shake