Digestive Enzymes

[xnotoriousx]

Should these be a staple in a high protein diet?

Has anybody taken or have any info on them?

[Swifto]

Yes. Expensive, but worth it.

When you consume 5-6 solid meals+ every day, there paramount.

[IM708]

Enzymes can be very good if you are having a larger than normal meal or excessive amounts of a specific macro or possibly you lack a specific enzyme(s).

Yes. Expensive, but worth it.

When you consume 5-6 solid meals+ every day, there paramount.

I somewhat agree with that. For some yes, for others no.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Bromelain

[F4iGuy]

Nark suggests it. Good enough for me.

[xnotoriousx]

I ordered some, after reading up on them.

My belly is always giving me trouble after a big meal and a lot of gas so maybe this will help that out, and helping with absorbing my nutrients.... Hey why not?

There's 60 servings in a $20 bottle, so that's 6 servings a day.... ouch they are kinda pricey.

[Canadream]

I use them all the time myself

[Narkissos]

The benefits of enzymes aren't limited to digestion.

Bromelaine is a mainstay for me because, in addition to improved digestion, it can assist in recovery... due to its anti-inflammatory properties.

I used it to accelerate my recovery from soft-tissue damage.

It worked beautifully @ 1500mg every 3 hours.

So... I still use it in this manner.

-CNS

[quaker48]

Best supplement you can take. Source natural makes a very good enzyme supplement at a good price. U can always tell if you have a quality enzyme product by making two bowls of instant oat meal. Mix the enzymes in one bowland let them both sit. The one that you put the enzymes in should turn to liquid. I tested this out with this product and it worked.

[Tigershark]

Amazon sells 2 bottles of Source Natural 120 caps for $31. That a decent price?

[quaker48]

Amazon sells 2 bottles of Source Natural 120 caps for $31. That a decent price?

Check out vitacost get 240 of them for 16-17 bucks. you only have to take pill per meal. Source natural is also a 3rd party tested company in GMP facilty, so no worries on the quality of the product. I have used various brands and these one is by far the best price and quality wise. Amazon is way to high on all their supplements.

[2jz_calgary]

I have all these pancreotic enzymes I got from a friend who has pancreotitis. Ill post the ingredients. Mabye worth takin when I cycle

[Tigershark]

Check out vitacost get 240 of them for 16-17 bucks. you only have to take pill per meal. Source natural is also a 3rd party tested company in GMP facilty, so no worries on the quality of the product. I have used various brands and these one is by far the best price and quality wise. Amazon is way to high on all their supplements.

Will do and thanks.

[clancywiggum]

I did a lot of post-grad work on digestion (and intestinal disorders)

these enzymes are basically a scam for fat people to fall prey to and think they're going to lose weight using them....if you want some bromelain, eat some pineapple, as the assimilation form pineapple is waaaay better than an artificial source.....

if you're having trouble digesting your food, address the problem directly, don't cover it up with yet another supplement....in other words change your meal combinations....

[clancywiggum]

I ordered some, after reading up on them.

My belly is always giving me trouble after a big meal and a lot of gas so maybe this will help that out, and helping with absorbing my nutrients.... Hey why not?

There's 60 servings in a $20 bottle, so that's 6 servings a day.... ouch they are kinda pricey.

what kind of trouble is your belly giving you? did these problems always exist, or are they recent? are you overeating during individual meals? what kind of food combos do you eat?

the "improved" absorption of nutrients due to enzyme supplementation is negligible to non-existent.

save your money, address your diet directly, and the problem should be solved quite easily

[clancywiggum]

The benefits of enzymes aren't limited to digestion.

Bromelaine is a mainstay for me because, in addition to improved digestion, it can assist in recovery... due to its anti-inflammatory properties.

I used it to accelerate my recovery from soft-tissue damage.

It worked beautifully @ 1500mg every 3 hours.

So... I still use it in this manner.

-CNS

1500 mg every 3 hours?!?! your heart rate must through the roof! I'm not sure daily use beyond 2 weeks is recommended or effective

studies on bromelain's effcet on digestion have been mostly performed on animals

the effects on recovery may largely placebo, although at 1500mg a day, who knows....you may get better results just taking advil a couple times a day

[quaker48]

I did a lot of post-grad work on digestion (and intestinal disorders)

these enzymes are basically a scam for fat people to fall prey to and think they're going to lose weight using them....if you want some bromelain, eat some pineapple, as the assimilation form pineapple is waaaay better than an artificial source.....

if you're having trouble digesting your food, address the problem directly, don't cover it up with yet another supplement....in other words change your meal combinations....

That is complete BS. Unless you eat everything raw you kill enzymes when you cook food .Yes your body does make enzymes, but it's like an ATM machine it only has so many, then it has to use others that were made for other functions of the body. People are lactose intolerent because they lack the enzyme lactase . When people supplement with lactase they can have milk or dairy again and are fine most of the time. I do agree supplement companies do try and trick people that enzymes will cause weight loss which is not true, but they def. have their place and should be used.

[2jz_calgary]

ok the enzymes i have are as follows: bottle name: viokase 16

ingredients: each tablet contains : lipase 16000 usp units
protease 60000 usp units
amylase 60000 usp units

each tablet digests fat:56g protein:60g starch:60g

is anyone familiar with these? are they worth taking?

[clancywiggum]

That is complete BS. Unless you eat everything raw you kill enzymes when you cook food .Yes your body does make enzymes, but it's like an ATM machine it only has so many, then it has to use others that were made for other functions of the body. People are lactose intolerent because they lack the enzyme lactase . When people supplement with lactase they can have milk or dairy again and are fine most of the time. I do agree supplement companies do try and trick people that enzymes will cause weight loss which is not true, but they def. have their place and should be used.

do you have scientific proof this happens? it's purely theory....exactly how many enzymes are sacrificed in this process? enough to warrant supplementation?

[clancywiggum]

each tablet digests fat:56g protein:60g starch:60g

I would LOVE to know how they arrived at these figures

[Narkissos]

1500 mg every 3 hours?!?! your heart rate must through the roof! I'm not sure daily use beyond 2 weeks is recommended or effective

What rubbish.

The only thing that's 'through the roof' is my recovery from exercise.

you may get better results just taking advil a couple times a day

Yes... let's switch from a non-toxic compound (bromelaine) to a hepatoxic and nephrotoxic one (advil).

Awesome advice!

Wow... I can't believe I didn't think of it before!

/end sarcasm.

[Narkissos]

Best supplement you can take. Source natural makes a very good enzyme supplement at a good price.

Natural factors makes a really good product as well.

[clancywiggum]

What rubbish.

The only thing that's 'through the roof' is my recovery from exercise.





Yes... let's switch from a non-toxic compound (bromelaine) to a hepatoxic and nephrotoxic one (advil).

Awesome advice!

Wow... I can't believe I didn't think of it before!

/end sarcasm.

so you associate your recovery from exercise to the actions of these supplemented enzymes? wow, you really have swallowed every claim those ads for these products make....there is zero scientific proof that supplementing with additional enzymes (or in what amounts) aids in exercise recovery....

as far as bromelain is concerned, you've equated it's actions to some miracle drug.....NO ONE has any clue what amounts of bromelain would be necessary to elicit a strong anti-inflammatory action....

I recommended advil b/c it sounded like you needed some inflammation relief right away....it's a short term solution. I love how you spun that to make it seem like you would need 8 advil a day to get relief, which would be a slightly hepatoxic amount...unless of course you're on a kitchen counter full of supps, in which case I understand your concern with adding 1 dangerous advil a day

at least we know the pluses and minuses of advil....you're supplementing with something that has no concrete proof of working. I don't know about you but I prefer to take things with proof of efficacy verified by scientific testing....most of the evidence for digestive enzymes is ANECDOTAL!!!!!!

another important factor in all this is what other supps are you taking? I'm sorry if the word placebo is insulting, but it factors in more ways than you're aware of....

but, you've got it all figured out, so let's just throw science out the window......

[Swifto]

I did a lot of post-grad work on digestion (and intestinal disorders)

these enzymes are basically a scam for fat people to fall prey to and think they're going to lose weight using them....if you want some bromelain, eat some pineapple, as the assimilation form pineapple is waaaay better than an artificial source.....

if you're having trouble digesting your food, address the problem directly, don't cover it up with yet another supplement....in other words change your meal combinations....

How do you propose one addresses the problem of consuming 5-6 (or more) solid meals daily?

[sizerp]

How do you propose one addresses the problem of consuming 5-6 (or more) solid meals daily?

He doesn't!

[spywizard]

I did a lot of post-grad work on digestion (and intestinal disorders)

these enzymes are basically a scam for fat people to fall prey to and think they're going to lose weight using them....if you want some bromelain, eat some pineapple, as the assimilation form pineapple is waaaay better than an artificial source.....

if you're having trouble digesting your food, address the problem directly, don't cover it up with yet another supplement....in other words change your meal combinations....

Food: Pineapple
Glycemic Index: 59
Glycemic Index Rating: Medium

With it being a Medium he may or may not get an insulin spike from it..

with the cap.. he won't.. that maybe worth considering..

[956Vette]

Good to hear some of both sides. Enjoying the convo, so keep it clean... & subscribed

[quaker48]

do you have scientific proof this happens? it's purely theory....exactly how many enzymes are sacrificed in this process? enough to warrant supplementation?

http://www.jonbarron.org/anti-aging-...04-01-1999.php

read and educate your self on enzymes. Just so you know about every top holistic doctor, strength coach, and health expert recommends dig. enzymes. Paul check, charles poliquin, jon barron, etc. I don't know what studies or where you got your info, but it's not good. I have a degree in exercise science and my cscs and I can tell you about half the stuff that is taught in college is trash by some flabby fat @$$. I hope this article helps you

[Swifto]

http://www.jonbarron.org/anti-aging-...04-01-1999.php

read and educate your self on enzymes. Just so you know about every top holistic doctor, strength coach, and health expert recommends dig. enzymes. Paul check, charles poliquin, jon barron, etc. I don't know what studies or where you got your info, but it's not good. I have a degree in exercise science and my cscs and I can tell you about half the stuff that is taught in college is trash by some flabby fat @$$. I hope this article helps you

If they suggest their use, thats enough for me.

I've been using them with my shakes and meals recently and I have less of a gaseous stomach now.

[Swifto]

So whats people's thoughts on proboitics...? They can imporve HCI levels.


Charles Poliquin suggests, Genestra Probiotics HMF Replete.

[tslice]

NOW Foods...Super Enzymes. Great supp. I use them regularly, and love them. Ox Bile is a key substance, and as with Bromelain, its included. 180 tablets for $7 on DPS. You can not beat the price

[Ashop]

Should these be a staple in a high protein diet?

Has anybody taken or have any info on them?

PAPAYA chewables I like them well,,,assits great with digestion.

[xnotoriousx]

Great info from everyone, thanks for all the input.

I've been taking champion nutriton d.enzymes after my big meals of the day and have noticed a lot less bloat.

[Garbanzo Dude]

The benefits of enzymes aren't limited to digestion.

Bromelaine is a mainstay for me because, in addition to improved digestion, it can assist in recovery... due to its anti-inflammatory properties.

I used it to accelerate my recovery from soft-tissue damage.

It worked beautifully @ 1500mg every 3 hours.

So... I still use it in this manner.

-CNS

This is very true.....they help out a ton with joint issues and soreness