Creatine: Mono vs Ethyl Ester?

[2107gc09]

I am very keen to take creatine, as I'm told that it produces very good results if taken properly. I understand that CM is the traditional creatine, but then what about CEE? Is CEE better, or what are the fundamental differences, can anyone tell me?

[IM708]

CEE absorbs better but it's fatal flaw is that it doesn't assimilate into the muscles as well as CM. So CM will produce better results.

[2107gc09]

how come you do not need a loading phase for CEE?

[IM708]

You don't technically need to load for any creatine.

[DangerDave]

In theory: mono does need a loading phase and preferably needs to be taken with fructose so with fruit juice. This aids in absorbtion. Mono causes water retention which makes it seem that more weight is gained when it is actually water.

Creatine EE does not need to be loaded, something to do with the ester. And it does not cause water retention.

But in personal experience I find mono to be better for me. If you dont mind the water bloat I d go for the mono

[Swifto]

Mono, no comparison.

The rest a meerly gimicks.

[RATTLEHEAD]

^^ sorry, but that just is not factual. it does not need to be taken with any kind of sugar, or carb for that matter. Mono can cause water retention, but if you purchase a buffered form, (micronized) you won't experience bloat. CEE is unproven with close to no solid scientific evidence behind it. Meanwhile, Monohydrate has been tested and proven over and over since the 70's. micronized creatine Mono is always the best choice.

[mho]

^^ sorry, but that just is not factual. it does not need to be taken with any kind of sugar, or carb for that matter. Mono can cause water retention, but if you purchase a buffered form, (micronized) you won't experience bloat. CEE is unproven with close to no solid scientific evidence behind it. Meanwhile, Monohydrate has been tested and proven over and over since the 70's. micronized creatine Mono is always the best choice.

While it is not NEEDED, there is a scientific study that shows simple carbs aid in the absorbtion of creatine.

But we've been down this road before.

[ghettoboyd]

i read recently in MD i think that there was a recent study that proved creatine EE was inefective.

[RATTLEHEAD]

pick up last months issue of mens health. Their university study explained things pretty well.. I think you'll find it interesting.

[collar]

mono is the way to go, from my experience with both.
do you need to load on any? no you dont
can you load? yes you can

whats the best results?
loading may spead up the strength process but only due to holding abit more water and absorbing a lot more creatine into the muscle.

ATP thats all its about.