Havoc

[Andro9]

i'm currently running Havoc @ 40mg/day (2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol) and test e. @ 500mg/wk. and i have to say its gotta be one of my favorite cycles ever. similar to one of my test/masteron cycles, but with zero side effects and cheaper . just thought i should put that out there. ive ran spawn with test(250mg/wk) as im on hrt, that was great too. this is the best by far because i look and feel great.

[Dont wanna be old]

Forgive my ignorance , is havoc OTC ? I just got into spawn research . Looking to push my TRT .

[Andro9]

yes its a prohormone. both spawn and havoc are great to run along with trt in my experience

[ckyass]

who makes both products?

[Andro9]

RPN makes Havoc and Myogenix makes Spawn

[ckyass]

thought so.....i'd assume havoc wouldnt do much tho without the test! lol

[Andro9]

thought so.....i'd assume havoc wouldnt do much tho without the test! lol

i think it would do great by its self

[POPS]

i think it would do great by its self

solo meaning havoc? if so, a buddy of mine just ran it for 6 weeks and didnt care for it so much. he got a little strength out of it, but thats about it. Another friend said that hed rather take h-drol than havoc for better gains with or without test.....to each is own.....

[Andro9]

solo meaning havoc? if so, a buddy of mine just ran it for 6 weeks and didnt care for it so much. he got a little strength out of it, but thats about it. Another friend said that hed rather take h-drol than havoc for better gains with or without test.....to each is own.....

how were thier diets?

[Duke07]

Have you noticed an increase in gas pains, and headaches with the HAVOC? also libido is way down.

[lucyluciano]

solo meaning havoc? if so, a buddy of mine just ran it for 6 weeks and didnt care for it so much. he got a little strength out of it, but thats about it. Another friend said that hed rather take h-drol than havoc for better gains with or without test.....to each is own.....

Someone is misinformed! H-drol is much milder and weaker than Havoc/Epi (same thing) It's actually a sterroid and not a prohormone and does not need to convert in the liver. Havoc is phenomenal! And you don't need as much as you do for H-drol. H-drol must be run at 75-100 mg doses for good effects...more for leaning out. similar to promagnon/H-roid etc. Epi/Havoc has a sweet spot of 30-40 mgs, excellent for pulsing too! Amzing pumps, strength gains, some leaning out and very few sides if any!

[Andro9]

Have you noticed an increase in gas pains, and headaches with the HAVOC? also libido is way down.

no, no negative sides at all, in fact less than when i run test at the same dose without it. and no libido loss as i am running testosterone along with it just upped the dose of havoc to 60mgs/day. by FAR my favorite PH, not the most effective, but its something everyone should atleast try.