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I just cycled with sus500 and loved the crap out of it, i got my bench from 235 to 300lbs in 30 days.
but theirs tons of pills out there and idk witch one will suite me best. my goals are to gain muscle mass and stay lean.
i would like to get the strongest one out there but be safe too, i take one 200mg pill of milk thistle a day to help my liver recover.
and dose anyone know about the new test400 oral pills that are replacing the sus500 and tren250 stack?
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test400 orals?
never heard of it.
was the sus500 pills or a real steroid?
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
how long since last cycle?
what was your pct?
"AR's Personal Trainer"
best oral:
eggquipoise
beefdrol
yambombs
the list goes on...
Junior Member
hear is the link for the test400 http://www.myspace.com/fightlabs
i used a oral steroid called sus500. hears the link http://cgi.ebay.com/SUS500-by-G-E-T-...3%3A1|294%3A50
age:20
hight: 6'3
weight: 248
body fat%: idk but i can see ab muscles haha
years of training: 6, but the last two years have been consistent
last 30 day cycle ended: 7/6/09
my pct is: methyl test (oral pill)
thanks man.
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
ok, I'll move this to the supplement section, I thought you were talking about steroids...
Junior Member
im also taking sytropin, i heard it helps with recovery and pcts
Junior Member
?? what do you mean? i thought sus500 was a steroid.
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
nope
AR's Supplement Guru
Yeah...you bought yourself a bottle of bullshit herbs.
Junior Member
but it works like one i know bc i made huge gains and my body changed really quickly. so its not a steroid but it works like one, right??
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
nope lol.
Junior Member
what the hell... then whats a real oral steroid????
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
anavar, tbol, dbol, drol, andriol, winny, I could go on and on. if you can legally buy it in America, it's not a steroid. there are a few PH's that work, but not many.
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
you have great stats for your age, and you aren't really old enough for steroids, why not just go natural for a couple more years and study so you'll know what to do when you're ready?
Junior Member
hmm so its ok to keep taking the sus500 then? bc its not a steroid? and what do you think of the HGH supplement sytropin? i take it and i get really good sleep from it.
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I wouldn't take it.
Junior Member
i don't understand why i wouldn't take the sus500, it dose not stop me from maturing or growing and i keep my diet healthy and my cholesterol down. and if its not a steroid then i shouldn't have the concerns of a normal steroid right? i want to learn why not, i just don't see a reason to not take them.
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are you familiar with each of those ingredients and the potential long term health effects they might have? have you researched them completely? what exactly are your goals?
AR's Personal Trainer
prohormones are steroids thety will shut you down, your too young nobody will advise a cycle for you.
Junior Member
what dose age have to do with it? and what do you mean by "shut you down"?
AR's Personal Trainer
Originally Posted by DillonSmash
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calling T-Mos...
Junior Member
i did do some researching before i took the sus500, and all the bad things come from abuse, and i don't intend to abuse this. and i just looked up pro hormones and they are just fine... as long as i PCT and not abuse it ill be ok.
thanks for responding to all my questions but i still don't see a reason why i shouldn't stop taking this. or trying an actual oral steroid.
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do whatever you wish, I'm done here.
AR's Personal Trainer
if you take prohormones at steroids at 20 you ARE ABUSING STEROIDS!! nobody personally cares on this board if you do but if you wnna Fkc your natural test levels/growth plates go right ahead! dont say we didnt warn you when your walking aroudn with limp dick at 20.
Junior Member
you didn't help me at all lol. i doubt you know anything...
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
who?
I know how to lock your threads...
Junior Member
it dosnt close growth plates. ive seen guys who have taken steroids scene they were 14years, they are 35 now and they look great! and the limp dick thing and balls shrinking... yeah that happens but it only happens if you don't PCT. and the whole reason to PCT is to make your natural test levels back to normal. so yet again.... i don't see a reason to not take steroids...
Junior Member
im just saying that i didn't learn anything. you guys just tell me no without a real reason not to take them.
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
you're right, I know nothing. good luck.
AR's Personal Trainer
your research sucks because there not 40 yet once they drop form a heart condition.. ioh yea ever heard non smokers lung cancer? explain that.. well there are RISKS.. and you are 100 percent wrong an oral with no test base you will be SHUT DOWN WHILE ON CYCLE have fun NUMB NUTS literally..
BIG, or T-MOS shut this useless thread down
Productive Member
bro Big and eatrainrest know and give some realy good advice on this board.. you are to young to use steroids it will fvck up your natural test levels and like he said you will have a limp dick and you will have 1 hella of hard time trying to get it hard wen your trying to fvck some hot girl and you cant get it up. these to guys know alot of stuff and you are being hard headed about the advice they are giving you. i see your in salem OR. i live in OR to.
Junior Member
ok so show me proven documentation that steroids make you sterile permanently. and i know that the heart condition comes from high cholesterol, if i train properly with cardio and keep my cholesterol down wont that solve my problems? (im not trying to fight i just want to learn)
and what do you mean SHUT DOWN WHILE ON CYCLE?
Junior Member
bro Big and eatrainrest know and give some realy good advice on this board.. you are to young to use steroids it will fvck up your natural test levels and like he said you will have a limp dick and you will have 1 hella of hard time trying to get it hard wen your trying to fvck some hot girl and you cant get it up. these to guys know alot of stuff and you are being hard headed about the advice they are giving you. i see your in salem OR. i live in OR to.
so it wont effect my natural test lvl's if im older?? why? i just really want the why answered...
AR's Personal Trainer
wher did i state permanently? stick around the boards enough and you will learn what these things mean, your not going to get all your answers in one day. but liek you said me and BIG dont know our shit so... sorry
Junior Member
i just want answers really... sorry. but maybe you guys could point me in the right direction of research? im wiki a million things right now... and ive watched bigger stronger faster documentary. im open minded but just impatient...
Productive Member
let me ask you a question so that suss500 its a prohormone it shut you down wen you use it. so my question is what did you use for your PCT after you finish suss500?
Junior Member
ok first i want to know what "shut you down" means lol im a little behind on the Vocab...
Productive Member
i ask you a question first. so i do believe since your young YOU DID NOT USE A PROPER PCT YOU JUST CAME OFF THE PH BY IT'S SELF. will some 1 explainer pct to this guy and why he needs it.
Junior Member
no im taking a PCT its called methyl test. its working bc my balls are not shrinking and i can still get a boner.
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