M-Drol or Spawn

[robofish]

I was planning on doing my last bottle of spawn but this guy in the gym says that M-Drol is better. wich one would be worth cycleing?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Spawn is much better.

Nevertheless, M-drol is still good stuff, it's basically a superdrol clone. anyways, and it's been discontinued.. so you may want to pick up a bottle now, before it's off the shelfs.

but yah, spawn is definitely way more intense / better gains - hands down.

[oak2429]

mdrol will put on a lot more mass then spawn

[robofish]

this might be a dumb question but is it safe to stack them?

[Machdiesel]

I heard M drol makes you EXTREMELY tired and its tough to drag your ass to the gym. Doesnt seem like a good side effect for something to make you biggger/stronger. Ive heard nothing but good things about SPAWN so that's what I am going to go with for my bulker.

[robofish]

Later in 2010 i was planning on doing a simple cycle of Test E and D-bol. a guy at the gym told me i could actualy replace the D-bol with this M-Drol. Said id get the same results either way. Is that true?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Later in 2010 i was planning on doing a simple cycle of Test E and D-bol. a guy at the gym told me i could actualy replace the D-bol with this M-Drol. Said id get the same results either way. Is that true?

Yes, you can use M-drol in place of D-bol. The results produced are a bit different.. (d-bol will make you retain more water IMO..)

but yah, bottle line is that a lot of people love using prohormones to kick-start cycles.

[jaydream]

I was on M-Drol and put on 9lbs in three weeks.

[robofish]

im just going to assume they arent safe to stack... so ill just go straight to what should i do for a PCT?? i was thinking Nolvadex not sure of how much and how many weeks...

[Okinawa_Power]

Clmoid: 70/70/35/35
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

70: 70mg = 35mg/ml = 1 ML or 70mg= 2 ML= Based on Lion's Chems......

70mg per day for 1st week, and second week, 35mg for third and fourth week. Same for the Nolva

[oak2429]

i did a hdrol mdrol cycle and this is what i did for PCT and recovered nicely and kept almost all my gains
PCT:
clomid- 75/50/35
nolva- 20/20/10/10
inhibit e- 1/1/2/1/1eod

[2jz_calgary]

if its gona be between mdrol or dbol please just go with the dbol. Its probably safer , will put more weight on you, and will have less sides.

[robofish]

now this really might be a bumd question but if i did 10weeks of test e at 500mgs could i throw in 4 weeks of spawn? or is it just better to do the cycle seperate?

[SkylineGTR]

now this really might be a bumd question but if i did 10weeks of test e at 500mgs could i throw in 4 weeks of spawn? or is it just better to do the cycle seperate?

I'd say seperate, but I don't understand why people who have already dipped into the darkside with AAS want to do cycles of prohormones. Prohormones aren't the same as AAS anyway and the muscle to money ratio with AAS is more worth it. Either way you are altering your chemical makeup in your body and I'd rather do it with AAS. just my opinion....

Either stick yourself or swallow pills from GNC...just pick one

[robofish]

so i should use both clomid and nolva for a pct? what if all i can get is the orals for both of those?

[POPS]

so i should use both clomid and nolva for a pct? what if all i can get is the orals for both of those?

If not orals then what??

Back to your initial question, I would choose spawn. Ive used it and it kicked ass. The sides werent too bad and you definately have to use clomid AND nolva for pct to come out ok......good luck!

[robofish]

so take both clomid and nolva. and orals are alright.
clomid 75/50/35
nolva 20/20/10/10

is that good like oak said? and one more quick question arent bothe clomid and nolva serms? why no AI? and do i need to take anything for my liver?

[POPS]

so take both clomid and nolva. and orals are alright.
clomid 75/50/35
nolva 20/20/10/10

is that good like oak said? and one more quick question arent bothe clomid and nolva serms? why no AI? and do i need to take anything for my liver?

DEFINATELY! Look into life support by annabolic innovations. It has all the support youll need.

However, when you take most ph's your liver isnt the only organ that is going to have extra stress put on it. Life support has supps for liver, prostate, blood pressure, and I believe cholesterol. Dont quote me but I think Im 99% on this one. check it out.

As far as pct for spawn, I did clomid @ 100/100/50/50 AND nolva @ 40/40/20/20. This is a must, speaking from experience.

I would also throw in some creatine in the 3rd week of spawn so when you finish your cycle, the creatine is already working in your body..


Cannot help with mdrol, never tried it.....

[oak2429]

PCT:
clomid- 75/50/35
nolva- 20/20/10/10
inhibit e- 1/1/2/1/1eod

inhibit is an AI and this is what i did for my mdrol hdrol cycle

[Okinawa_Power]

PCT:
clomid- 75/50/35
nolva- 20/20/10/10
inhibit e- 1/1/2/1/1eod

inhibit is an AI and this is what i did for my mdrol hdrol cycle

Why did you take an AI with M-drol? M-Drol does not aromitize so I don't see the need for it.

[Dukkit]

ive ran both mdrol and dbol

mdrol was dryer, harder gains. better vascularity and crazy pumps.

ive ran dbol 3 times and am not a fan. never see much on dbol

id go with mdrol

but spawn is stronger

[oak2429]

u can get rebound gyno from mdrol and taking any prohormone is gonna spike ur estrogen up after you get off so thats y i ran inhibit with my pct

[Okinawa_Power]

u can get rebound gyno from mdrol and taking any prohormone is gonna spike ur estrogen up after you get off so thats y i ran inhibit with my pct

It will spike your estrogen only if it armomitizes.

[oak2429]

no thats not true

[oak2429]

just because a prohormone is a dry prohormone like hdrol or mdrol or epidrol or bold doesnt mean you cant get gyno from it

[robofish]

so AI or no AI??

[forrest0330]

I Have used M Drol for 3 week and have gained about 8lbs dry weight. I am very impressed with the results. I do get head aches pretty bad but it is worth for the results. I have very little experience with AAS, I did a cycle plus of dbol about 8 years ago and didn't know what I was doing. But in my opinion for a legal OTC Prohormone M Drol is the best I have had yet. I have seen some awesome reviews on the spawn but I could not get it as easy as M Drol. I don't care so much to keep my size I have gained just the strength and kinda at a loss for a PCT, thinking of the Novedex XT. Any thoughts?

[POPS]

I Have used M Drol for 3 week and have gained about 8lbs dry weight. I am very impressed with the results. I do get head aches pretty bad but it is worth for the results. I have very little experience with AAS, I did a cycle plus of dbol about 8 years ago and didn't know what I was doing. But in my opinion for a legal OTC Prohormone M Drol is the best I have had yet. I have seen some awesome reviews on the spawn but I could not get it as easy as M Drol. I don't care so much to keep my size I have gained just the strength and kinda at a loss for a PCT, thinking of the Novedex XT. Any thoughts?

novadex xt is garbage. Youll need nolvadex at a minimum for pct. For what I have read about mdrol I would use nolva @ 40/40/20/20 and clomid @ 100/100/50/50. I cycled spawn for 4 weeks and this is what I did and came out ok. I would assume to use the same for mdrol considering that it is a strong compound and the sides can be rather nasty.....jmo...

[forrest0330]

Novedex xt is kinda my only option at this stage in the game. Is there a better OTC PCT you can tell me about?

[oak2429]

AI yes and if novedex xt is your only option then that sucks but run it at 4/3/2/2

[POPS]

Novedex xt is kinda my only option at this stage in the game. Is there a better OTC PCT you can tell me about?

its not worth taking the chance in my opinion. I would rather wait until you have a proper pct lined up before taking any cycle. You might do more harm than good.

Anyone else care to agree with me? Okinawa??

[PistolStarta]

Novedex xt is kinda my only option at this stage in the game. Is there a better OTC PCT you can tell me about?

you will regret this man, use ARR and get some nolva at least. I wasnt the same after spawn.

[yourmom]

you will regret this man, use ARR and get some nolva at least. I wasnt the same after spawn.

X2, Same with M-Drol.

Got a question for ya'll. Whats the diff between M-drol, Spawn or th X-Tren /E-Stane combo.

[PistolStarta]

X2, Same with M-Drol.

Got a question for ya'll. Whats the diff between M-drol, Spawn or th X-Tren/E-Stane combo.

tren /stane is a stack thats the same of spawn, mdrol is its own stand alone PH

[Okinawa_Power]

M-Drol= Superdrol Clone....
SPAWN= Tren /Epistane Combo, Tren for cutting and massive strength, and epistane to counter Tren Dick (Tren shuts you down big time)

M-drol= slight water retention, will mess up your cholestrol and Lipid values
SPAWN= No water retention and will help you lose fat while still packing on the pounds. Very potent DS.....That is why it is off the shelves now.......Anything that works as well as D-Bol/Anadrol has to banned.....

[Okinawa_Power]

Novedex xt is kinda my only option at this stage in the game. Is there a better OTC PCT you can tell me about?

You are going to be throwing your money away if you don't run a good PCT. Spend the money on Clomid and Nolva before you start your cycle. M-Drol will shut you down big time and you are not going to have anything to start your natural test production. I mean if you don't like sex then by all means don't do a good PCT, however if you still want to impress your old lady in the bed with all those new found muscles then do a PCT..........If you don't after 2 weeks you will look the same as before you started your cycle or worse because you are going to pick up some fat with M-Drol......

[forrest0330]

Ok, I'm going to take a shot in the dark here because I have seen people mention the place. Are the Products from AR-R worth the money and do they work? The Nolva and the Clen ?

[Big]

Ok, I'm going to take a shot in the dark here because I have seen people mention the place. Are the Products from AR-R worth the money and do they work? The Nolva and the Clen?

that gets asked about twice a week, check lion's section, many reviews.
yep, they work fine.

[Triple Stack]

I use ARR's stuff exclusively for PCT a few times already with great results. Also, I keep a stock of thier Cia (Cialis) for the fun of it....great stuff & a super value considering how expensive the pharmacy grade stuff is. I have a prescription for it but prefer ARR's!! It's cheaper & just as good...

Clomi & Tamox is thier brand name for what you need.

[PistolStarta]

I use ARR's stuff exclusively for PCT a few times already with great results. Also, I keep a stock of thier Cia (Cialis) for the fun of it....great stuff & a super value considering how expensive the pharmacy grade stuff is. I have a prescription for it but prefer ARR's!! It's cheaper & just as good...

Clomi & Tamox is thier brand name for what you need.

picking up some of their cialis for my stack as well.