Spawn Cycle

[JMwrstler]

I currently weigh 157 lbs my coach asked me to move up to the 197 pound weight class. That means by October of next year Ill have to way in 195-200 lb range. Do I have any chance of getting there by running 3 or 4 spawn cycles or should I just go with real AAS? If 197 lbs isnt possible is 184 lbs?

[PistolStarta]

how old are you, how tall are you, lifting experience?

You're coach wants you to gain 40lbs of mass in under a year?

[POPS]

how old are you, how tall are you, lifting experience?

You're coach wants you to gain 40lbs of mass in under a year?

Need stats bro like Pistol said. And is your coach crazy? You mean to tell me that if you put on 40 lbs of muscle within a year your coach will not get suspicious????

Speaking from experience, spawn is not something that you just jump into...

[PistolStarta]

Need stats bro like Pistol said. And is your coach crazy? You mean to tell me that if you put on 40 lbs of muscle within a year your coach will not get suspicious????

Speaking from experience, spawn is not something that you just jump into...

x2 lol spawn messed me up

[JMwrstler]

Age-20
Height-5'9
BF-7% Im positive on this because we took a test when we got certified for our weights
Experience-Been lifting for 6 years 2 of which have been for a college sport

To be completely honest I was just happy he didnt tell me I should lose that much weight (This is not unheard of Ive literally seen people have to swallow tape worms). I got a concussion a few days ago and can't come back until next season so he wants me to spend all the time off gaining that muscle.

Like I said we are also graduating somebody at 184 and he mentioned that so if 197 is to crazy Ill shoot for that. Ive been told you can gain around 15 lbs on spawn. I just need to know if Ill get the same gains or close to it on spawn the 2nd and 3rd time I cycle it not just the first. For PCT I was thinking Nolvadex and Clomid I asked about an AI while on cycle but was told that would be unneccesary. Everybody on my team is saying Ill have to use roids but Id rather gain it on a PH. Shorter detection time.

[PistolStarta]

I did this stuff at 23 and regretted it, I wouldn't at 20. Unless you want to not achieve erection like me?

PH is roids btw.

[Dont wanna be old]

Spawn was taken off the market .

[PistolStarta]

lol also a valid point, I was going on the notion he already had it.

[Dont wanna be old]

If you add 20% body weight in 12 months .
You would have to gain 12 ounces of lean muscle each week .
Just not sure if this is a real goal or healthy at all .

I could see 1 weight class in that time and be dominate at it .

Be the best you can be and not the best someone else wants you to be .

Good luck

[elpropiotorvic]

Man change your coach... He obviously hlgives rat shit about ur health ... Fvck ur only 20 and he wants u to gain 40 lbs of muscle in one year.... Ask him how am I suppose to dothat ?

He wants his 20 yr old pupil to use steroids for what? Are u making a career out of this or not ? Personally if this is just a university thing u want to do ... Do it with ppl that care for u

[JMwrstler]

I have a bottle and there are two clones still on the market so obtaining it isn't the issue. I just need to know Spawn cycles would get me there. What Im really asking is if I can expect the same kind of gains(12-15 pounds) the third and 4th time I cycle it not just the first. Otherwise I would just run the cycle my buddies are recommending(weeks1-13 500 mg Test e)(weeks 1-12 400 mg Equipoise)(weeks 1-4 30 mg Turinabol)( weeks1-13 arimidex)(PCT Nolvadex and Clomid) but Id rather not do that. So if you or anybody you know would know the answer to my question and could give it to me Id be very appreciative.

Thanks

[JMwrstler]

Man change your coach... He obviously hlgives rat shit about ur health ... Fvck ur only 20 and he wants u to gain 40 lbs of muscle in one year.... Ask him how am I suppose to dothat ?

He wants his 20 yr old pupil to use steroids for what? Are u making a career out of this or not ? Personally if this is just a university thing u want to do ... Do it with ppl that care for u

He didn't actually come out and say to use steroids but Im not really sure how else I can make that gain unless this spawn thing works. Ya he's crazy but they all are. Like I said Im just happy Im not cutting weight

[POPS]

well obvoiusly he has his mind set on running spawn no matter what we try to make him understand.

So I guess we might as well tell him the do's ands dont's????

Anybody else care to elaborate??

[JMwrstler]

Ok. Do you know if I can make the same gains the second and third time I run a spawn cycle as I can the first?

[PistolStarta]

You can but thats going to depend on time off, diet, and training.

[JMwrstler]

Ok so I might actually be able to get there with spawn cycle. Would you recommend that or just the AAS cycle I mentioned earlier.

[elpropiotorvic]

Just quit doing it 40 pounds in ur sport is not good idea ... If u dint want to listen to my advise that's fine, and if u wish so I will stop participating of this thread but man I would really hate to see another." Help guys I can't get It up thread..." Or something like I grew another leg (exagerated version)

please be safe ... Unsafe use is the main reason to ban drugs ..... Just my opinion like I said I'm not ur mom but consider pleas

[PistolStarta]

Do you have an cycle length or PCT layed out for any of this?

[...aydn...]

im currently taking a highly overdosed spawn clone atm. 120mg tren/ 36 mg epistane..

pro's- great gains as soon as week 2 hits, strength will bust through the roof. really dense feeling, iv put on 3 kgs in 3 weeks.

cons- if you are sexually active you will need to get a script for some viagra or cialis, you libido will be fvked and you will have erectile disfunction (yes i have it).. you will become really irritable and this can cause destruction of close relationships. your moods will be up and down- one day you will be almost in a state of euphoria and the next day you will feel like you have depression..
they say it doesn't aromitise to estrogen but i had my blood check 2 weeks in and my e levels were 4 times higher then they are meant to be. i got some letro to take care of that though. your joints will become dry and sore.





if you want to take this steroid be aware of the concequences and get your blood work done, make sure you have you pct in your hands before you take ur first tablet... your pct should atleast consist of clomiphene..

some support sups you can take-

liver repair
zma
glucosamine




please listen to what people say, this is powerful and can really fvck you up.. best of luck

[JMwrstler]

Just quit doing it 40 pounds in ur sport is not good idea ... If u dint want to listen to my advise that's fine, and if u wish so I will stop participating of this thread but man I would really hate to see another." Help guys I can't get It up thread..." Or something like I grew another leg (exagerated version)

please be safe ... Unsafe use is the main reason to ban drugs ..... Just my opinion like I said I'm not ur mom but consider pleas

i understand where you are coming from and I know that you are just concerned for my safety. I know that 40 pounds is a lot and I can get pretty messed up trying to get here. I know there is no safe way for a 20 year old to gain 40 lbs in a year, but I am trying to figure out the safest way to get there and instead of just listening to my friends and going with a big Steroid cycle (which would be my first) I am trying to make myself knowledgeable about other options. Im not asking for you to recommend that I attempt this. With or with out this forum I will still need to gain the weight. I just need accurate information so that I can decide how to gain this in the best possible way given the circumstances.

[JMwrstler]

Do you have an cycle length or PCT layed out for any of this?

Ya a 4 week cycle 3 pills a day

Ive got some Taurine already on hand so Id use that if I get back pumps
I also have plenty of Nolvadex and Clomid

Ill run both of those drugs for pct

Clomid at 70,70,35,35
Nolvadex at 40,40,20,20

[POPS]

sorry man but I cannot longer participate in this thread.

For starters you wanted to stack all of those compunds for your very first cycle? Mistake #1

You are only 20 where your natural test levels are very high as it is and you want to mess with that ? Mistake #2

Im not sure on what type of diet you are currently following but with a good bulking diet, proper supplements and hard training will do yourself better in the long run than risking all the negative sides at your age.

Sorry, but whatever you choose best of luck.....

[PistolStarta]

How tall are you?

[JMwrstler]

How tall are you?

Im 5'9