cycle advise please.

[DarnGoodLookin]

I want to run m-drol, x tren , and e-stane all in the same cycle. I was thinking something like this.

x-tren 90/90/90/90/90/90
e-stane 40/40/40/40/40/40
m-drol 0/0/0/30/30/30

pct

Clomid 50/50/30/30
nolva 40/40/20/20

(I also have support supps and will be getting some letro shortly)

age 21
height 5'11"
weight 185lbs (was 195, but I got sick and had surgery so im getting my weight back)
cycle experience forged extreme mass for 4 weeks
diet was crappy, but im starting to get it back into shape.

[MONEY AND MASS]

first cycle?

[DarnGoodLookin]

nope 2nd

[POPS]

I want to run m-drol, x tren , and e-stane all in the same cycle. I was thinking something like this.

x-tren 90/90/90/90/90/90
e-stane 40/40/40/40/40/40
m-drol 0/0/0/30/30/30

pct

Clomid 50/50/30/30
nolva 40/40/20/20

(I also have support supps and will be getting some letro shortly)

age 21
height 5'11"
weight 185lbs (was 195, but I got sick and had surgery so im getting my weight back)
cycle experience forged extreme mass for 4 weeks
diet was crappy, but im starting to get it back into shape.

look for a thread that Okinawa Power has. I think he just ran the same but in a different order, not 100% sure but hes the one to ask. Its like "making" your own spawn, lol.

I ran the real spawn last year and loved it but for pct I would up the clomid to 100/100/50/50 and the nolva is ok..

just my .02...

[DarnGoodLookin]

yeah I think I'm going to up the clomid to 100/100/50/50. Im not sure if I should get letro again or if I should go with adex. any suggestions? (gyno prone)

[DarnGoodLookin]

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[Okinawa_Power]

Do not run the X-Tren /E-Stane over 4 weeks, it is not nessassary. Do run the M-Drol from the last week of the X-Tren/E-Stane for 3 weeks. This will push your cycle to 6 weeks:

X-Tren: 3 Caps a day for 4 weeks
E-Stane: 3 Caps a day for 4 weeks
M-Drol: Starting on week 4 of above run 3 caps a day for 3 weeks.

or you can bridge like this:

X-Tren/E-Stane for 4 weeks, followed by S4 for 3 weeks at 50mg ED and then do the M-Drol for 4 weeks at 3 caps a day. The S4 is your bridge, it will allow you to continue to build muscle and help you lose any unwanted fat before you hit the M-Drol.........

Up your PCT like Pops said like this:

Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

This will get you on track again. Also taking 3 orals is very hepatoxic to your liver. Ensure you are taking the proper liver protection during and after your cycle. Your liver is one tough organ, but don't take that for granted. TAKE YOUR SUPPORT SUPS....

[DarnGoodLookin]

do you think I should get adex or letro and how should I run it?

[Okinawa_Power]

If you don't want to retain as much water I would take adex at .025 EOD and see how you are...As for letro have on hand and if you start to experience any signs of gyno then start using it.

[DarnGoodLookin]

thnx for the advice. you were the person I wanted to answer my questions, because I'm pretty sure I read somewhere you did a smiliar cycle.

[DarnGoodLookin]

Do not run the X-Tren /E-Stane over 4 weeks, it is not nessassary. Do run the M-Drol from the last week of the X-Tren/E-Stane for 3 weeks. This will push your cycle to 6 weeks:

X-Tren: 3 Caps a day for 4 weeks
E-Stane: 3 Caps a day for 4 weeks
M-Drol: Starting on week 4 of above run 3 caps a day for 3 weeks.

or you can bridge like this:

X-Tren/E-Stane for 4 weeks, followed by S4 for 3 weeks at 50mg ED and then do the M-Drol for 4 weeks at 3 caps a day. The S4 is your bridge, it will allow you to continue to build muscle and help you lose any unwanted fat before you hit the M-Drol.........

Up your PCT like Pops said like this:

Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

This will get you on track again. Also taking 3 orals is very hepatoxic to your liver. Ensure you are taking the proper liver protection during and after your cycle. Your liver is one tough organ, but don't take that for granted. TAKE YOUR SUPPORT SUPS....

I'm going to take your advice and bridge the cycle with some s4. Just to clarify would it be

weeks 1-4 xtren/estane(xtren @90/estane @30),

weeks 5-7 s4(or should I start s4 on week 4?),

weeks 8-12 mdrol @ 30,

PCT clomi/nolva/clen and if need be some letro. (clomi @100/100/50/50) (nolva @ 40/40/20/20) (clen @ 40/60/60/60) I have benadryl so I'll run the clen for 4 weeks straight.

Does this look pretty solid??

[DarnGoodLookin]

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[DarnGoodLookin]

*sigh* bump