Can I replace "Spawn' with using "H-Drol" ??

[Jeffro503]

Hey guys....

I started a thread last week looking for something that i could replace the myogenix Spawn with , but didn't get any responses.

I'm not a body builder , but i race motocross in some upper classes. The sport kicks the crap out of you , and I always had great results using Spawn for re-coop.

My question is....would H-Drol from someone like competitive Edge labs give me about the same ( more or less ) effect as what i was getting with my spawn?

Also....quick question about using a PCT after wards. I have never used one before , mainly because i thought guys that did , ... used it to keep all their gains in size. Should I be doing a PCT after a 30-45 day use of H-Drol ?

I do a crap load of cardio work , but i also hit free weights alot for strength. A lot of people don't understand how physically demanding this sport can be when you get seriously into it.

Thanks guys.

[bigslick7878]

Spawn is MUCH stronger than H-Drol, but H-drol is a good PH.

Yes you need a PCT.

[Jeffro503]

Thanks Bigslick. Is there anything out on the market that may be comparable to Spawn at the moment? Actually the H-drol may work , and i could give some a try. I'm not trying to gain any more muscle or anything , just using it for my recuperation after training. When i was using spawn , I felt strong all day in practice , and with that came confidence.....which is about 99% of what you need in MX.

[Gaspari1255]

Thanks Bigslick. Is there anything out on the market that may be comparable to Spawn at the moment? Actually the H-drol may work , and i could give some a try. I'm not trying to gain any more muscle or anything , just using it for my recuperation after training. When i was using spawn , I felt strong all day in practice , and with that came confidence.....which is about 99% of what you need in MX.

Taking steroids and not trying to gain muscle is stupid. Just because it is legal does not mean that you don't have to use it with intelligence.

[bigslick7878]

Thanks Bigslick. Is there anything out on the market that may be comparable to Spawn at the moment? Actually the H-drol may work , and i could give some a try. I'm not trying to gain any more muscle or anything , just using it for my recuperation after training. When i was using spawn , I felt strong all day in practice , and with that came confidence.....which is about 99% of what you need in MX.

PH are not something you use to just recover after a hard workout.

Set a goal, develop a plan for what you are trying to achieve if you want to use them. They are steroids make no mistake about it.

And if you don't have a proper PCT you are just wasting your time and messing with your internals, and will be back right where you started over and over again.

[Jeffro503]

There have been a few big name motocross racers in the past few years who had been suspended from competing for a certain amount of time because they had been caught using PED's. Another words I think they were using some sort of a Pharomone or EPO enhancer.

Alot of athletes ( not just body builders) use these types of PED's for competition. I myself can attest that when I was using the spawn , it helped me considerably in strength , better cardio ( because i could hit it almost every other day ) and therefore my recuperation was better.

I'll admit you guys know way more about these kinds of things than I do , and that's why I was asking for some help and advice in what you would suggest to use. I don't want to go the "illegal" route , as i'd like to use something mild ( what body builders consider mild ). And not even something that will help me build more muscle....but endurance.

Do you guys have any idea of what other athletes tend to use? Such as cyclists , MMA fighters , and other endurance type athletes?

I'm looking into an EPO PED as a replacement of some sort , as this I think would help me in the long run with my endurance.

BTW....thank you for all your advice so far , it's much appreciated.

[...aydn...]

apparently lance armstrong used to use sarms s4.

for moto riding get something that will make you dense and not big.. spawn makes you feel like crap because of the tren.
just use epistane or h-drol, or maybe a high dose 11-sterone.
im not prescribing meds but thats what i would use in your case. dont go for the muscle builders. and just use one compound at a time then maybe after a few cycles start stacking them.

as for pct go read the stickies-
but in short you will need a serm and an ai.

nolva(serm)
Ai (low dose letro)

could probs do without the AI. or get a weaker one. letro is strong. goodluck with your racing