Does This Supplement Combo Look Good ?

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[PC650]

im actually a huge fan of creatine.. prob the only sup i think is worth a damn...u could use glutamine.. but your protien powder usually provides a decent serving of glut already. 233 at 5'11? how long have u been training. sounds high in the bf %

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[bigslick7878]

Hey Guys O.K lets start with my stats

Age:28
Weight:233
Height:5'11
B\F: Sorry guys I have no clue but it's not low, but I'm not a fat pig ether.

Hope I'm not missing anything if I'am let me know.

I basically want to bulk up but lose fat too (not totally cut I just don't want to gain more fat) Hope that makes sense.

Here's what I was going to use let me know if I should be adding or taking anything away.

Creatine
Whey Protein
L-Glutamine
Multi-Vitamin


Does this look good ? Should I add anything ?

Add BCAA's.

[PC650]

Add BCAA's.

he can get all the bcaa from food as long as he has a high protien intake diet as well as his protien powder has a enough for recovery

[bigslick7878]

he can get all the bcaa from food as long as he has a high protien intake diet as well as his protien powder has a enough for recovery

No he can't.

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[ottomaddox]

Add O m e G a Fatty acids, ie. Fish oil.

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[bigslick7878]

I seen that at the nutrition shop, it just said BCAA 5000 powder. Is that what your talking about ? Never used it before.

Yes, it comes in caps too.

Should be a staple in any workout program.

Take as much as you can afford.

[bigslick7878]

I have 1000mg capsules of wild salmon oil Just picked that up today.

Do you eat fish or anything else that contains Omege 3, 6 and 9?

If not you need to supplement your diet.

I don't eat any seafood or really good fats so I take about 10g a day of a 3-6-9 combo.

They are called ESSENTIAL fatty acids for a reason.

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[PC650]

No he can't.

yes he can....start reading up more

[PC650]

http://www.illpumpyouup.com/articles...ts-of-bcaa.htm

Where is BCAA found?

Dairy products and red meat contain the greatest amounts of BCAAs, although they are present in all protein-containing foods. Whey protein and egg protein supplements are other sources of BCAAs. BCAA supplements provide the amino acids leucine, isoleucine, and valine.

so dont tell me food doesnt have bcaa

[6ft5]

Well glutamine, cratine, multi, and I quit fish oil was taken 9g ed until I found out that sum fish oil contains high amounts of pcb..so does fish.. So I'm onto usind a pb w omegas or a omega spread on sum toast. I now use jack 3d it contains sum of those sups and puts it in a pre workout drink. Also pretty affordable

[bigslick7878]

http://www.illpumpyouup.com/articles...ts-of-bcaa.htm

Where is BCAA found?

Dairy products and red meat contain the greatest amounts of BCAAs, although they are present in all protein-containing foods. Whey protein and egg protein supplements are other sources of BCAAs. BCAA supplements provide the amino acids leucine, isoleucine, and valine.

so dont tell me food doesnt have bcaa

LOL. I never said food did not have BCAA's. I said you can't get enough of them through just whey protein and/or food like you mistakenly claimed. The question is HOW MUCH and is that enough for a active workout program. The answer is NO.

Red meat has creatine in it, would you recommend not taking that either? I mean it is in the food so it should not be necessary right? Wrong.

I think you should do some reading on the benefits of BCAA's, and when you can find a food that has about 15 grams of them you can let us all know and we can eat that every day instead of supplementing with them.

[PC650]

"Despite the lack of strong evidence for the efficacy of BCAA supplements, athletes continue to use them. However, normal food alternatives are available and are almost certainly cheaper. For example, a typical BCAA supplement sold in tablet form contains 100 mg valine, 50 mg isoleucine, and 100 mg leucine. A chicken breast (100 g) contains 470 mg valine, 375 g isoleucine, and 656 mg leucine, the equivalent of about 7 BCAA tablets. One quarter of a cup of peanuts (60 g) contains even more BCAA and is equivalent to 11 tablets."

this is a quote from a study

sorry just dont wanna see a fellow lifter get short changed..... food is key!!

[bigslick7878]

"Despite the lack of strong evidence for the efficacy of BCAA supplements, athletes continue to use them. However, normal food alternatives are available and are almost certainly cheaper. For example, a typical BCAA supplement sold in tablet form contains 100 mg valine, 50 mg isoleucine, and 100 mg leucine. A chicken breast (100 g) contains 470 mg valine, 375 g isoleucine, and 656 mg leucine, the equivalent of about 7 BCAA tablets. One quarter of a cup of peanuts (60 g) contains even more BCAA and is equivalent to 11 tablets."

this is a quote from a study

sorry just dont wanna see a fellow lifter get short changed..... food is key!!

Of course food is key. BUT....

That chicken breast has all of about 1.5 grams of BCAA's in it. Not enough, by a long shot. Depending on your workout program you need minimum 10g a day, I know some serious lifters who take upwards of 30g a day. I get about 15g a day in and if I could afford it I would take more.

And the BCAA's sold in capsules these days have double the amount that study listed. 2 caps is 1 gram.

You also get into a question of absorbtion when it is in the food as well. BCAA's are best absorbed on an empty stomach, and obviously if you are eating your stomach is not going to be empty.

[PC650]

My protien powder alone gives me 5g a serving of bcaa... That's only 1 serving. Post workout shake is the essensial time to have your bcaa.. So most people use two to three scoops depending on the amount of protien they want. Right there is 10-15g alone in a post workout shake... But hey to each his own. Let's stop hijacking his thread

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[6ft5]

Bcaa are bad ass. Look into liquid bcaa other wise know as liquid protein. I love that stuff! To bad I am out of it right now. it is good and contains a decent amount of protein in it. Taken by the tbl spoon. Some people take the caps but by the other being liquid I think it would absorb a bit better. The ones I have tried are put out by twin labs and gnc.

[bcaasdirty]

wats bcaas? nvr heard of them

megadosing bcaas while cutting has done wonders for preserving my hard earned muscles

the MOST cost effective (and subsequent worst tasting) is bulk BCAA powder...~$40 for 1000g...not bad

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[bcaasdirty]

I haven't bought it yet but was going to pick it up on Monday. Since it tastes so bad whats the best thing to mix it with ? I'm guessing juice, but some juices are nasty when mixed with certain powers(ie.orange juice especially when it has pulp in it)

well i nvr mixed it w/ anything...just kinda manned up and downed it in water

and yes...no pulp > pulp

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