I was told by a friend this stuff has him dropping weight quite easily. I understand it does have an affect on insulin.?? Does it, has anyone used it,with what results?
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I was told by a friend this stuff has him dropping weight quite easily. I understand it does have an affect on insulin.?? Does it, has anyone used it,with what results?
I used it years ago when Dan Duchaine was touting its use in his Underground BodyOpus Diet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainboy
I dont think it did much. What it does in non diabetics is questionable. Turns out it is toxic - at what dose is highly debated. I personally dont use it anymore and wouldnt recommend it. Id suggest ALA in lieu of this ....
Thanks for the reply and info jimmyinked. If that is your tat it's freaking cool.
Like Jimmy I tried this stuff back when it first gained popularity, but unlike him I loved it. Firstly you'll need real Vanadyl, which is blue. Some products have scant blue specks which don't do much, but SportsPharma was genuine and effective. Secondly, 7-10mgs of Vanadyl prior to working out provides superb (sometimes debilitating) pumps.
With regard to insulin, Vanadyl is an insulin-mimicker. I wrote about its properties as an ingredient in one of me and Brian's products called Win-ALT:
http://www.steroids.com/Win_ALT_s/39.htm
co-signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by magic32
*Real* vanadyl sulfate is very effective.
Add that to the fact that it's stackable (and has synergy) with chromium polynicotinate, cinnamon polyphenols, and gymnema sylvestre...and it's hard to say anything bad about vanadyl sulfate. :)
Improved insulin sensitivity = Improved body compositionQuote:
Originally Posted by mountainboy
Yeah we will have to agree to disagree. I am very insulin resistant. Vandyl and Chromium have both proved useless for me personally. We do all respond differently - however stuides seem to indicate that in non diabetics my experience is not uncommon.
I like ALA for improving insulin sensativity. I take in enough cinnamon every day that i should be getting that benfit but honestly its hard to say i 'notice' that. I do believe reseacrh shows it is effective for this purpose. As far as gymnema sylvestre - it does work - i just think its prudent , as with any gda type substance , to be very carful how you use it or it can just as easily work against you as for you.
OP maybe give it a shot and see how you personally respond.
ive used it back in the day, maximuscle's stuff, now called pump up, i think. it left me blazing hot and red and gave serious pumps and focus