Pro hormone advice.

[Homeslice12]

I'm leaning toward doing a test/deca cycle as first time. But wanted to get advice on what pro hormones would be similar to those in effectiveness and results. I keep reading about superdrol but I'm worried about its liver toxicity. Any advice is greatly apprectaited.

[ajordana]

no ph is going to give you results like this. i used a super-dmz ph for a month as a kickstart to my cycle with great gains, ph's will give you insane strength gains and good size gains but if you run them alone youll most likely lose most of it post cycle. if you run on id suggest still doing the test and just using the ph to kickstart the cycle for 4 weeks. i gained 28 lbs in 28 days on my super-dmz cycle and added ridiculous weight to all my lifts, and am still running test and still making gains, but if i hadnt run the test with it i would say i wouldve dropped most of it after, thats what happened when i ran ph's alone in the past

and i would drop the deca for a first cycle, see how your body runs with just test, its all you need.

[Armykid93]

no ph is going to give you results like this. i used a super-dmz ph for a month as a kickstart to my cycle with great gains, ph's will give you insane strength gains and good size gains but if you run them alone youll most likely lose most of it post cycle. if you run on id suggest still doing the test and just using the ph to kickstart the cycle for 4 weeks. i gained 28 lbs in 28 days on my super-dmz cycle and added ridiculous weight to all my lifts, and am still running test and still making gains, but if i hadnt run the test with it i would say i wouldve dropped most of it after, thats what happened when i ran ph's alone in the past

and i would drop the deca for a first cycle, see how your body runs with just test, its all you need.

So you ran a Ph and aas?? I'm guessing the super means superdrol but was is dmz? Or is it actually called super dmz

[ajordana]

its actually called super-dmz. but you are correct, the "super" in it iis superdrol clone, and the dmz is dymethazine. and yes i ran ph and aas, ph's can be used quite well as an oral kickstart or at the end of a cycle, just like an oral steroid such as dbol or drol. a lot dont like to use them though because of the lethargy and pumps and superdrol is very liver toxic. but the gains very impressive.

[Armykid93]

its actually called super-dmz. but you are correct, the "super" in it iis superdrol clone, and the dmz is dymethazine. and yes i ran ph and aas, ph's can be used quite well as an oral kickstart or at the end of a cycle, just like an oral steroid such as dbol or drol. a lot dont like to use them though because of the lethargy and pumps and superdrol is very liver toxic. but the gains very impressive.

Sounds like it lol 1 pound per day

[xo3et]

I have used Hdrol and Havoc which are both mild/strong PH's. I have also cycled with Test E/Dbol and i would choose the latter any day of the week. I will never use Ph's again as i had worst sides from them than i did running my test E cycle.

[ajordana]

I have used Hdrol and Havoc which are both mild/strong PH's. I have also cycled with Test E/Dbol and i would choose the latter any day of the week. I will never use Ph's again as i had worst sides from them than i did running my test E cycle.

agree i like test e and dbol better, the lethargy and pumps from harsh ph's arent fun, the gains are sick, but dbol/drol and test= much much better

[Armykid93]

I have used Hdrol and Havoc which are both mild/strong PH's. I have also cycled with Test E/Dbol and i would choose the latter any day of the week. I will never use Ph's again as i had worst sides from them than i did running my test E cycle.

Worse sides than the real stuff?

[Homeslice12]

I ultimately want to stick with the real stuff. Just was looking for a backup plan if that never pans out. So stay away from pro hormones? I'm concerned abou liver toxicity. I don't want liver failure before I'm 40 (or any age )

[gearbox]

Most pro h we do not know.exactly what are in them..scary thought

[Porky]

the dmz is really strong , i had major strength gains , i had dmz extreme i think its a bit more potent. i would take a look at the all about pro hormone thread , lots of good info in there.