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    Best supplements

    Im trying to look for a pre work out and a post workout that will help me with all my gains and make sure they stay with me but also not cause me to gain fat

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    Try 200mg caffeine tablets as for pre-workout. They are amongst the cheapest yet most effective pre workout supplements one can use.

    If your BW is under 200lbs, 5gr of Micronized Creatine Monohydrate with your post workout protein shake will keep your muscles full and recharge your ATP for the next training session. Creatine also helps you to retain lean gains for various reasons. You can also take 5gr on non-workout days early in the day, make sure you are drinking at least 4lt of water ED when you are on Creatine. It is a very safe supplement, which is why it is OK for you to stay on it throughout the year without any health concerns.

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    But I have heard that creatine is mainly water weight so will I loose my gains once I am off it?

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    Creatine draws some water into muscle fibers along with glucose, which is NOT a significant overall amount that would be visible on the scale at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcuz189 View Post
    But I have heard that creatine is mainly water weight so will I loose my gains once I am off it?
    no need to come off creatine

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    I do not remember who posted it on here, but someone posted a large study on how then is no results to creatine causing weight weight or making someone hold water. It is broscience

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    To sum up;

    1. Creatine does NOT cause holding of water weight in human body as in the example of severe edema. It simply draws some water and glucose to the muscle fibers hence giving the muscle a fuller look. By doing so, it also allows the muscle to grow a bit more by feeding and protecting it.

    2. Creatine allows one to lift a bit heavier, last for longer during training and push harder as well as taking shorter rests in between sets, which all lead to lean muscle gain as well.

    3. I had my kidneys and liver checked by a specialist when I was on Creatine for 2 years straight, everything came out perfect. Creatine is pure and unlike myths, it is not damaging to internal organs. No need to get off it IMO.

    4. I suggested Caffeine as a pre-workout supplement not only because it works, it is cheap and highly accessible, but it also burns fat.

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    BCAAs have done great things for me. 20g+ during training. I use BCAAs, zinc, and magnesium both of which help me sleep at night. They'll reduce soreness and help you recover faster.

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    20g+ during training may be a bit too much. What is your BW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruyff View Post
    BCAAs have done great things for me. 20g+ during training. I use BCAAs, zinc, and magnesium both of which help me sleep at night. They'll reduce soreness and help you recover faster.
    per day??

    mate, it's 5 grams a day forever.... any excess and you will piss it out (you piss most of it out anyways), but your body is fully saturated at 5g per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman

    per day??

    mate, it's 5 grams a day forever.... any excess and you will piss it out (you piss most of it out anyways), but your body is fully saturated at 5g per day.
    I think he was talking about 20g of bcaa's
    Are you referring to creatine saturation?

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    BCAAs at 20g+ during workouts. It just gets used as energy- which isn't a bad thing if it's preventing catabolism. I don't typically use very much on cycle. But postcycle I've found that they greatly increase the effectiveness of workouts and the gains kept. There's a lot of benefits to BCAAs. They aren't steroids but they definitely help. I find BCAAs help me maintain blood sugar levels and improve my pump when I'm not on gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruyff
    BCAAs at 20g+ during workouts. It just gets used as energy- which isn't a bad thing if it's preventing catabolism. I don't typically use very much on cycle. But postcycle I've found that they greatly increase the effectiveness of workouts and the gains kept. There's a lot of benefits to BCAAs. They aren't steroids but they definitely help. I find BCAAs help me maintain blood sugar levels and improve my pump when I'm not on gear.
    Do you buy bulk powder and just mix with water? I'm currently weighing up forking out for scivation xtend, or too just mix my own bcaa's with maybe a little Gatorade powder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruyff View Post
    I find BCAAs help me maintain blood sugar levels ...
    Can you explain how BCAAs do this?

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    The best supps for your money IMO are whey isolate,,creatine,,and EFA'S

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