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    What is the best creatine??

    What are the best creatines for getting ripped, not so much "big"??

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    Mono hydrate, purple K by fusion is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venitor
    What are the best creatines for getting ripped, not so much "big"??
    Just get a creatine monohydrate, studies show its better than normal creatine and creatine ethyl ester, I have the studies somewhere
    Also there is no sig. Difference with creatine HCL, so just buy the mono in bulk, u can get it very cheap!

    Also, load for a week, 20g every day for 7days then 5g every day after, u don't need to ever come off it or cycle it

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    mono hydrate, then which ever is least expensive

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    Awesome sounds good. thanks!

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    Is AST, micronized Creatine Monohydrate a good choice?
    Also, when during the day do i take it? before after work out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by venitor View Post
    Is AST, micronized Creatine Monohydrate a good choice?
    Also, when during the day do i take it? before after work out?
    That is a great choice, I would take it before you workout, so it is in your muscles when you go to eat and recover.

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    Micronised mono is good but I would take 5g after your workout not before.
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    so... one says after one says before. I just want to do what ever will get the best results but i dont know whos right or if it matters?

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    I'm using ON creatine. Bought the 600g bottle for a decent price and should last 3 months or so. It's creapure so you can't go wrong with it. There's cheaper alternatives but I feel secure with ON.

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    Personally I use kre alkalyn 1 cap before and 1 after. With mono, 5g will saturate your cells for a long time. It also needs a vehicle in the form of carbs to get it to your cells. So, if you take mono on an empty stomach you will absorb much less than after your workout when you take it with your PWO nutrition.

    FYI kre alkalyn needs NO vehicle to get it to the cells!
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    Quote Originally Posted by venitor View Post
    What are the best creatines for getting ripped, not so much "big"??
    What the **** is this shit?

    Do you know what creatine is/does..

    Thats like saying i want a protein to get ripped and not too bulky. Use 15 min on google. fml
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    OP, listen to Stem's advice of taking 5gr post workout ONLY, and 5gr in the mornings on non-workout days.

    No need to take it before and after workout, since Creatine takes about 3-4 hours to metabolize and you practically need it once your ATP is depleted, no need to put extra stress on those 3 internal organs responsible for Creatine synthesis by overdosing it.

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    OP mentioned using it to get ripped...but doesn't creatine smooth out a lot of people?

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    I think the creatine "bloat" is very over exaggerated. I've never seen anything but an improvement in physique while on creatine. Just use plain mono. Can't go wrong.

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    Yeah I think the 'Creatine creating water retention' is an argument put forward by people suffering from fat retention!
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    Exactly. As long as you're eating right and pumping and humping with all you've got, creatine will give you a small boost with no negs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Yeah I think the 'Creatine creating water retention' is an argument put forward by people suffering from fat retention!
    Quote Originally Posted by StickyNicky View Post
    Exactly. As long as you're eating right and pumping and humping with all you've got, creatine will give you a small boost with no negs.
    Good to know. I don't get "ripped" very often so I have no personal experience, but wondered since I am using creatine for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

    Good to know. I don't get "ripped" very often so I have no personal experience, but wondered since I am using creatine for the first time.
    What're you taking?

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    I just use the powder form and add it to my protein shake

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Yeah I think the 'Creatine creating water retention' is an argument put forward by people suffering from fat retention!
    Why talk about something if you dont understand it? It further spreads misconception about topics.

    An increase in body mass is commonly associated with creatine ingestion, and there has been great speculation as to the cause of this effect. Water retention is one explanation; in one study, subjects undertook 11 24-h urine collections: 2 before ingesting 20 g creatine/d for 5 d, 2 during the ingestion period, and 7 >20 d after ingestion (48). Urinary volume (Figure 5) varied a great deal between subjects, but creatine ingestion was accompanied by a marked reduction in urinary volume during the initial days of supplementation. Of interest, this reduction in urinary volume was of the same magnitude as the increase in body mass observed during this type of supplementation protocol and suggests that water retention indeed explains the increase in body mass. In addition, the increase is approximately the same as that observed after carbohydrate loading; any deleterious effects associated with an increase in body mass, for example in weight-bearing events, are offset by the increase in exercise capacity.
    http://www.ajcn.org/content/72/2/607S.full

    Creatine supplementation results in weight gain due to water retention, which may impede performance in mass-dependent activities such as running and swimming.
    http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/9884...iQWBVXM3Tuf.16

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    Quote Originally Posted by n00bs

    Why talk about something if you dont understand it? It further spreads misconception about topics.

    http://www.ajcn.org/content/72/2/607S.full

    http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/9884...iQWBVXM3Tuf.16
    I'm aware that Creatine is responsible for the muscles holding water it is what it does. I am making a flippant comment that it does not cause blurring of definition.
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    The discussion is about appearance. We are simply agreeing that supplementing with creatine does not cause you to look like a nasty, puffy bastard like is commonly thought. Water retention is a great thing and helps achieve gains at an accelerated pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n00bs View Post
    Why talk about something if you dont understand it? It further spreads misconception about topics.
    I have always known the creatine weight came from water, but thought the benefit was that most of it was intramuscular. Time for me to do more reading.

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    What're you taking?
    Mono.

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    Mono is the shit. I feel a little more pumped when I'm on due to the water retention and workouts are great. More endurance and more power for longer = better gains than one would experience without creatine.

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    creatine isnt for getting ripped, its for putting on size and strength. I dont use creatine when trying to get ripped because I hold a lot of water weight.

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