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    EPHEDRINE/CAFFINE Stack?

    Was wondering if anyone of you have cut with an "Kaizen" Ephedrine/Caffine stack? I found a place in canada where i can get them. So i was curious before i ordered any

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    I currently use caffeine tablets (200mg) and an Ephadrine tablet every morning. These are my kick start to the day. I can't say they've helped with cutting, I assume that's your goal?
    I can safely say I feel awake and focused after my morning pills. As far as doses for an effective ECA stack I don't know. What doses are the caffeine and Ephadrine

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    Yep, I used Kaizen. 24mg eph, 200mg caffeine and a baby aspirin. 2-3 times per day with a cutting diet and you are good to go.

    It does make a difference but I wouldn't use it above 10% bf personally.
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    I've used it and liked it. I did it exactly the way the gentlemen above has outlined. The only thing I didn't care for was the crash and had to learn how to time it so I didn't crash.

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    ok well the eph is 8mg and the caff is 200mg. they say take it 3 times a day. My wife wants to lose alittle baby weight is why i asked really. Dont get me wrong i wanted to cut a bit after bulking. From what i have read is that EPHis very safe however, because of certain people thinkin, well if i take 10 tablets instead of 1, 3 times a day, i will lose weight alot quiker. Therefore create heart and health probs. I am really not sure of the safe dosage though. Any info on this would be great.

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    Well that would be tabs of eph 3 x a day. It's a piteous stimulant, if you or your wife try it then assess your tolerance first.

    In all honesty, I wouldn't wanna be looking after a child if I was on it. Seriously, diet and exercise will help her and you enormously.

    There's no such thing as safe in the stimulant world!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Well that would be tabs of eph 3 x a day. It's a piteous stimulant, if you or your wife try it then assess your tolerance first.

    In all honesty, I wouldn't wanna be looking after a child if I was on it. Seriously, diet and exercise will help her and you enormously.

    There's no such thing as safe in the stimulant world!
    Ok let me come at this a different way. Its safer than what the media has claimed it to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Well that would be tabs of eph 3 x a day. It's a piteous stimulant, if you or your wife try it then assess your tolerance first.

    In all honesty, I wouldn't wanna be looking after a child if I was on it. Seriously, diet and exercise will help her and you enormously.

    There's no such thing as safe in the stimulant world!
    Our youngest is in pre-school so all would be ok. I would like to raise another question since you stated that you wouldnt be on it with kids around. I am curious as to why? Side effects, which would be? Dont get me wrong, just ISO some knowledge.

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    Because it makes me jittery and able to focus only on one thing. Don't feel I can multi task. Watching my little girl or driving her in a car would be a definite no no for me.

    We all react differently though and have a different tolerance for certain things.
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    I do completely agree, multi tasking on a good ec run is tough. I seem to lose patience quicker and I'm quite a bit more irritable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Because it makes me jittery and able to focus only on one thing. Don't feel I can multi task. Watching my little girl or driving her in a car would be a definite no no for me.

    We all react differently though and have a different tolerance for certain things.
    I'll be using it soon and it hits me the same way till i kinda get used to it again. Back in the day i ate the Ma Huang like it was candy. Never realized how bad it was for me.

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    Thanks for all the info guys

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    I miss the old "Rip Fuel" days. Too bad everything got banned.

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