DAA raises estrogen higher than it raises test

**Armykid93** · 12-22-2012, 05:51 PM

Been wanting to try DAA but now i'm rethinking due to an article I saw on it.
The gist of it was after a month on DAA blood work was done, around 80 percent of guys taking DAA saw a greater increase in estrogen than they did in their test.
The article recommended stacking it with a "light AI" not sure what they mean by that. Maybe something like ERASE?
A weaker AI is what they meant i'm guessing.
I wanted to post this since a bunch off people I know are taking DAA.
Anybody have any other information on this? Is it old news?

**MickeyKnox** · 12-22-2012, 05:59 PM

Link?

**Armykid93** · 12-22-2012, 06:03 PM

It was on another forum i'm part of and I know its against the rules to post links to other forums or I would have posted it.
Plus i'm on my phone and i'm not able to post links with it.
Sorry. I'll try and find another article online

**Armykid93** · 12-22-2012, 06:13 PM

This kind of explains it but its really just advertising in disguise I think.
Its nowhere near as informative as the other stuff I read
http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Danger...et!&id=4632468

**BIGink** · 12-22-2012, 08:44 PM

I'm on my third run of DAA right now. The first time I used it was during PCT after a cycle. The second was a 4 week run with Erase. Currently on on my second week of an 8 week run of DAA and Erase. The original Erase run at 2 caps per day is perfect for me to compliment the DAA. I love both products!!!

**MickeyKnox** · 12-22-2012, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Armykid93

It was on another forum i'm part of and I know its against the rules to post links to other forums or I would have posted it.
Plus i'm on my phone and i'm not able to post links with it.
Sorry. I'll try and find another article online

If you get the opportunity to post it up, do so but simply break the link.

**Armykid93** · 12-22-2012, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

If you get the opportunity to post it up, do so but simply break the link.

I will If I can. Im not tech savvy though lol so without a computer its hard for me. That link was easy cuz I just used my search engine. Either way I don't think I'll use it. I'm so young I don't see it making a noticeable difference. I wanted to post this thread more as a warning anyways

**Ashop** · 12-22-2012, 10:06 PM

I have known this for quite awhile,,we did some small trials and some marked increases in estrogen levels.

**Armykid93** · 12-22-2012, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by ALIN

I have known this for quite awhile,,we did some small trials and some marked increases in estrogen levels.

Was it pretty significant?
Enough to take something in conjunction with it?

**A_Grant** · 12-23-2012, 01:52 PM

Well, if testosterone are enhanced, estrogen will be too, via the aromatase pathway. But the extend to wich Daspartate boost test is nothing compared to aas. The most optimistic study I found (D'aniello et al, reproductive biology and endocrinology, 2009, 7:120) was talking about a 35% increase after 12 days, rapidly decreasing after cessation of treatment. Bottom line, it's not a lot if a 2 weeks on 2 weeks off cycle. I don't think the increase in estrogen will be likely to cause any harm.

I did a little research and I could't find any studies that reported an increase of estrogen not directly linked and proportionnal to the increase of test. So like Mickey, I would be very interrested in looking at that link.

**M302_Imola** · 12-27-2012, 07:47 AM

Anything that raises test well thus increase estrogen to some extent. That being said, I have never had a significant increase in estrogen when taking 3g DAA (I've taken it 5-6 times for roughly 4-6 week cycles). The best combo I have found is DAA + stinging nettle root extract + DIM. The DIM is a natural estrogen reducer.

**Armykid93** · 12-27-2012, 11:29 AM

What's DIM? I don't think i've ever heard of that?

**M302_Imola** · 12-28-2012, 07:38 AM

DIM

(Diindolylmethane)

DIM is an indole phytochemical that is a natural metabolite of compounds found in cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts and cabbage. In animal and in vitro studies, DIM has been shown to lead to the preferential formation of estrogen metabolites that are correlated with healthy breast, endometrial, and cervical tissues. This unique property sets DIM apart from other plant nutrients.

Essentially it's a naturally occurring herb that helps control estrogen.

**Armykid93** · 12-28-2012, 09:45 AM

Sweet, thanks for the info

**Juced_porkchop** · 12-28-2012, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

DIM

(Diindolylmethane)

DIM is an indole phytochemical that is a natural metabolite of compounds found in cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts and cabbage. In animal and in vitro studies, DIM has been shown to lead to the preferential formation of estrogen metabolites that are correlated with healthy breast, endometrial, and cervical tissues. This unique property sets DIM apart from other plant nutrients.

Essentially it's a naturally occurring herb that helps control estrogen.

Thanks man!
Im on hrt but still maybe ill try this while on it as a "mini cycle" or something. I already got a tub of DAA i never used and got for free (power chews DAA) so might aswell try it. I got AIs on hand though just in case (as always)

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**M302_Imola** · 01-02-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

Thanks man!
Im on hrt but still maybe ill try this while on it as a "mini cycle" or something. I already got a tub of DAA i never used and got for free (power chews DAA) so might aswell try it. I got AIs on hand though just in case (as always) [/B]@Juced_porkchop

No prob but with you being on hrt I doubt you'll feel much from the DAA. Although, it might kick your LH into gear so you might get something out of it. Hell since the product was free might as well give it a go. I would suggest your running the DAA + nettle root extract + DIM combo though.