Started taking daa stinging nettle vit d3 cialus

[sc2only]

Since taking these conpounds 7 days is ago i have recently developed some late night alertness. I try to sleep my regular time but toss an turn like 1-3 hours. And it affecting my day.

Taking around 3000 daa a day
432 stinging nettle a day
5 mg cialus a day before bed or at night before workout

I take nettle n daa in morning.

Ive always worked out around 5 and slept at 8:30. Now i cant sleep till 10 or even. As late as 1 am.
I dont intake caffein. No steroids. I take testofx before bed just for the mild anti estrogen in it.

Any ideas? Could it be cialus keepin me up. Or daa?
I feel better qualiter life but the lack of sleep bothers me. Thanks.

[MickeyKnox]

Ive never had a problem sleeping on DAA. And i was taking exactly what you described here, except the Cialis. I wish i could help. Could it be your body is trying to adjust and find homeostasis?

[Ashop]

Maybe its the supp your taking right before bed? The 'Tesostfx'???

[EarlyMuscles]

Do you feel anything from the supplements testosterone wise?

[bigrich4]

Maybe the raise in test os having you more "up"... but ive only taken daa in the morning and cialis i take usually at night so that shouldn't be a problem. If i guessed its just a raise in test just making you more "alive"... just a guess.

[sc2only]

Yeah i feel more well being. My test def is up a bit. Libido is up of course. I slept good last night so who knows. Maybe my body adjusting. Thanks.

[M302_Imola]

Yeah i feel more well being. My test def is up a bit. Libido is up of course. I slept good last night so who knows. Maybe my body adjusting. Thanks.

What brand nettle root you taking? Is it stinging nettle root extract?

[jimmyinkedup]

Ive never had a problem sleeping on DAA. And i was taking exactly what you described here, except the Cialis. I wish i could help. Could it be your body is trying to adjust and find homeostasis?

Reminds me.
DAA works via activation of NDMA receptor in hypothalamus and prob else where like the pituitary. Unlike Serms or ai's that work via the e receptor and negative feedback etc to induce production of lh/fsh - the activation of the NDMA receptor induces production of gonadtropin (via GnRH). It is very possible this pathway may be unaffected by shutdown. This is not a definite , but a possibility that shouldnt be dismissed either.
Also daa works in the testes and this is a big part of this theory. Androgens inhibit STAR protein (Stimulating Steroidogonic Acute Regulatory Protein) expression in the testes. STAR protein play a role in the bility o produce testosterone and to what level it can be produced. DAA upregulates the expression of STAR. By DAA upregulating STAR protein expression in the testes, this raises the limit, or possible enables in the case of shutdown, testosterone production.

Anyway its a great topic id love to discuss and look into more..wish there were 34 hrs in the day!

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks Jimmy!

In the meantime, i found something on the net that supports what you're suggesting.

"When d-aspartic acid (DAA) is ingested it is absorbed into the body and taken up preferentially by endocrine tissues such as the hypothalamus, pituitary, and testicles. There it stimulates the activity of what are known as NMDA receptors. NMDA receptors are located on neurons and they regulate neuronal activity. DAA binds to a specific docking site (receptor) located on the NMDA receptor known as NMDA binding site.

In the hypothalamus the stimulation of NMDA receptors leads to the production of gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH). GnRH then stimulates the pituitary gland to release luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH). LH and FSH then in turn travel to the testicles to initiate the process of steroidogenesis, which leads eventually to the release of testosterone into the blood stream. Stimulation of NMDA receptors in the hypothalamus also leads to the release of growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH) which in turn promotes the release of growth hormone from the pituitary gland.
So the key here is the NMDA receptor. The more you activate this receptor in the hypothalamus the greater the release of GnRH and GHRH, and ultimately testosterone and growth hormone.

The NMDA receptor is somewhat unique in that it requires activation by two ligands (a ligand is like a “key” to a receptor). In the hypothalamus the main ligand for the NMDA receptor is d-aspartic acid. The secondary ligand (or co-activator) is the amino acid glycine. Both DAA and glycine have specific binding sites on the NMDA receptor. These sites are known as the NMDA binding site and the glycine binding site respectively. Think of it this way - just like how firing a nuclear missile requires two soldiers to turn two separate keys, so the NMDA receptor requires binding by two ligands to initiate its influence on the firing of a neuronal signal.

So to review, administration of DAA leads to it’s uptake into the hypothalamus and binding to the NMDA receptors there. And to activate the NMDA receptor you also require adequate levels of ligands that bind to the glycine site of the NMDA receptor. Now common sense would lead one to assume that by ingesting supplemental amounts of glycine would ensure that glycine site co-activation is ensured. However the scientific literature has shown that this method has limited efficacy."

Im a firm believer in DAA and have used it several times, along with many friends. Besides Whey Protein and Creatine, this is one of the few products that i will consistently believe in and use, that produces the results it claims to do.

[noon]

What brands of DAA does everyone stand behind
Is there a diff in the stinging nettle root brands on the market

[EarlyMuscles]

Is stinging nettle root as good as daa? Is it even worth taking?

[bigrich4]

What brands of DAA does everyone stand behind
Is there a diff in the stinging nettle root brands on the market

Personally i take prima force daa.. i felt it and had blood work done and it improved test.. but one thing it did raise is estrogen as well. I know a lot dont think it works but my test was low so i wanted to try this because all the positive reviews and like anything that will raise test comes elevated estrogen as well.. so im taking some adex as well now to get that back to normal .. my dr gave it to me. I dont know if its worth taking in young people. But im 34a and diabetic so my test was low (376) and 3 months later it was 626, which is a big jump.

[M302_Imola]

Is stinging nettle root as good as daa? Is it even worth taking?

I prefer the Now brand stinging nettle root extract. Each pill is 250mg and that is plenty, so no need to take more than one per day. Nettle root is worth taking in my opinion as is can help reduce SHBG, which in turn increases your bioavailable test levels. 3g DAA + 250mg stinging nettle root extract is the only natural test boost I've gotten results from. My libido is through the roof on these products as well.

[jimmyinkedup]

What brands of DAA does everyone stand behind
Is there a diff in the stinging nettle root brands on the market

I have nothing but good things to say about e pharms TestForce2 daa.
Patrick Arnold discovered it , combined it with sarcosine to make it more effective.
I was sent 2 tubs to test - much to my surprise at the time it really works.