melatonin??

[fishizzle0927]

having a little trensomnia, 5mg melatonin normal dose or you guys take more?

[kitstreasure]

I would recommend 5mg of melatonin and 1500mg of Valerian root. You'll sleep like a baby.

[marcus300]

I take 3mg every night

[bdos]

I take 3mg every night

X2 i prefer it to sleeping tablets

[cj111]

Trensomnia..I tried 20mg melatonin and nothing. Just accepted the fact that sleeping is not happening lol...was never tired the next day but it just made for a long night.

[Armykid93]

I take 3mg every night

How long have you done this?

I read somewhere its not good to take it every night

[jasc]

I've used up to 10mg and feel 5mg worked just as well.

GABA helped me even moreso than the melatonin.

[Ashop]

having a little trensomnia, 5mg melatonin normal dose or you guys take more?

I use 3mg right before bed myself.

[kitstreasure]

having a little trensomnia, 5mg melatonin normal dose or you guys take more?

Trensomnia..I tried 20mg melatonin and nothing. Just accepted the fact that sleeping is not happening lol...was never tired the next day but it just made for a long night.

I would recommend 5mg of melatonin and 1500mg of Valerian root. You'll sleep like a baby.

Now, let me explain the reason this is my suggestion: Valerian root is known as "Nature's Valium" is a potent otc sedative. In low doses during the day, it helps with irritability and aggression. In larger doses it induces a deep dream free sleep. However, most medication induced insomnia doesn't respond to it or other OTC methods as individual medications. When you add Valerian root and melatonin together, it has a compounding effect. It doesn't induce sleep the same way that a prescription sleeping pill will, it just makes you feel relaxed and sleepy. This combination reliably gets results, but is mild enough in its actions that you don't feel like you've taken something to make you sleep.

So for those of you for whom the melatonin isn't enough, try adding Valerian Root. It's available in 500mg veg capsules for less than $10 for 90 capsules.

[AnabolicDoc]

I like melatonin. If taken every night, it is recommended that one take 0.5 to 1mg at 3 to 5 hours before bedtime so as to augment one's natural production. But 3mg is by far the most common dose purchased. It's safe to take up to 10mg for short periods of time. I think this works well for run of the mill insomnia, but for tren-induced insomnia I think most ppl need something stronger.
But if you want to stick with more natural alternatives, in addition to valerian root that was already suggested is tryptophan 500mg (which is not to be mixed with certain meds, namely SSRI's) and GABA 500-750mg which some studies show may increase the male nighttime GH surge. These both can be safely combined with melatonin and can result in potent combinations in some individuals.

[MuscleInk]

I've never used it. High doses of GH usually take care of my trensomnia. Much more expensive than melatonin however!!!!!

[cj111]

Is it safe to take all 3 of those together to try and sleep ?

[AnabolicDoc]

I've never tried valerian root but I've mixed the other 3 (GABA, tryptophan, and melatonin) many times and never had any problems. I know that doesn't guarantee that they're ok to combine but I don't know of any contraindications between them. Try two of them at a time and once you've tried all 3 combos of 2 at a time then you can consider mixing all 3.

[AnabolicDoc]

And congruent with MI's suggestion, you can always try one of the GHRH's or GRF's like sermorelin or mod grf 1-29 as they are supposed to promote slow wave sleep. As far as GH stimulation, they don't do too much on their own but add a ghrp (preferably -2 or -6) and that might produce a moderate GH boost.

[fishizzle0927]

Trensomnia..I tried 20mg melatonin and nothing. Just accepted the fact that sleeping is not happening lol...was never tired the next day but it just made for a long night.

10-4 on that. seems that 5mg is helping moderatly at best. had a dream last night that i was driving my truck through the grocery store with my buds and shot one in the face like what happened to jimmy in pulp fiction!!!

[MR-FQ320]

If i cannot sleep i take 10mg Melatonin slow release and a nytol.

[marcus300]

How long have you done this?

I read somewhere its not good to take it every night

Ive used it for many yrs, but I dont take it every night. I do have a week off it now and again because I like to cycle everything

[Armykid93]

Ive used it for many yrs, but I dont take it every night. I do have a week off it now and again because I like to cycle everything

Haha makes sense.

[kitstreasure]

A common OTC combination for sleep is melatonin, Lemon Balm (Melissa), and Valerian Root. I find that even for amphetamine/stimulant induced insomnia this combination works exceptionally well. For my patients for whom this is not enough, I recommend adding in Chamomile tea or a sleepytime tea and L-Tryptophan. When that fails, I usually recommend a good orgasm, but that's the perspective of a herbalist and midwife.... *shrugs*

[AnabolicDoc]

Is this available as a single combination pill or must it be taken individually? Also I've never heard of lemon balm so I will do a Google search and read about it for a few min, but if there is anything specific about it you'd like to share I would like to learn.

[Zodiac82]

I took the quick dissolve melatonin 10mgs along with Valerian root and works better than most orchestra sleep aids....side note valerian root smells awful lol....gaba did not do anythin for me not even the shortness of breath ur supposed to get

[Armykid93]

A common OTC combination for sleep is melatonin, Lemon Balm (Melissa), and Valerian Root. I find that even for amphetamine/stimulant induced insomnia this combination works exceptionally well. For my patients for whom this is not enough, I recommend adding in Chamomile tea or a sleepytime tea and L-Tryptophan. When that fails, I usually recommend a good orgasm, but that's the perspective of a herbalist and midwife.... *shrugs*

Lol so what exactly do you do for a living?

[zack67360]

Does the melatonin and valarian root cause dreams? Tried Somarest and that sh_t caused vivid dreaming all friggin night long. Woke up more tired than when I'd gone to bed.

[Zodiac82]

Does the melatonin and valarian root cause dreams? Tried Somarest and that sh_t caused vivid dreaming all friggin night long. Woke up more tired than when I'd gone to bed.

cant fully remember if it did fir me or not....its been a couple years since I took either....but I would venture to say yes because u would be at REM

[csl665321]

I was gonna take melatonin but I read it caused gyno in some people? So not sure how good it is to run in conjunction with a cycle.

[RipOwens]

A common OTC combination for sleep is melatonin, Lemon Balm (Melissa), and Valerian Root. I find that even for amphetamine/stimulant induced insomnia this combination works exceptionally well. For my patients for whom this is not enough, I recommend adding in Chamomile tea or a sleepytime tea and L-Tryptophan. When that fails, I usually recommend a good orgasm, but that's the perspective of a herbalist and midwife.... *shrugs*

5 mg of melatonin and chamomile worked well for me, as well as establishing a consistent nighttime routine.

[Juced_porkchop]

i HIGHLY rec kava kava ( i use the 84% extract) from konakavafarm.com (no relation, just like them) and also kavabyrex for raw root *tastes like crap, you have been warned*

also Valerian root is good and mild. i made up a herbal tea with ti i have sometimes and my GF has almost every night.

[2jz_calgary]

Now, let me explain the reason this is my suggestion: Valerian root is known as "Nature's Valium" is a potent otc sedative. In low doses during the day, it helps with irritability and aggression. In larger doses it induces a deep dream free sleep. However, most medication induced insomnia doesn't respond to it or other OTC methods as individual medications. When you add Valerian root and melatonin together, it has a compounding effect. It doesn't induce sleep the same way that a prescription sleeping pill will, it just makes you feel relaxed and sleepy. This combination reliably gets results, but is mild enough in its actions that you don't feel like you've taken something to make you sleep.

So for those of you for whom the melatonin isn't enough, try adding Valerian Root. It's available in 500mg veg capsules for less than $10 for 90 capsules.

Melatonin does nothing for me however valerian does work. I had better success buying it in raw herbal form from bulk section of health food store, seemed way more potent.