ephedrine with alpha yohimbine and caffeine

[morton30]

Hi everyone has anyone ever mixed these three before i have t5 tablets yesterday i skipped the preworkout and just took the t5 and it was one of the best workouts i have ever had today though i thinking of taking pre workout with it i have insane labs I AM GOD witch is pretty stim heavy and dont want too much caffeine so if i was to do this i would only take half a scoop so caffine will come out to 500mg with the t5 pills but what im not sure about is mixing the three of these stims

[Windex]

ECY stack has been around for a long time, almost as long as ECA has been popular.

The stack certainly has a time and place, being beneficial to training. If you need stims like preworkout or this stack on a regular basis then I would reevaluate your approach to training or your day to day schedule.

[morton30]

it would just be a one off i wouldent do this every day

[The road]

Both are outdated.

For fat burning effects there are better and safer ways.

Yohimbine is crap that should not be mixed with ephedrine.

Asprin is basically useless. Take a baby asprin a day. No need for retarded ratios etc. Elevate urine acidity and whatever form of ephedrine you are taking caffine doesnt matter much because it is likely mixed with guiafenesin. Unless you are using injectable. In which case that will get expensive!

Ephedrine HCL has half the capability of sulfate.
Always buy bronkaid if using pill form.

Yohimbine is a lot of what caused the stroke and heart attack issues imo.

Dont mixi it with shit that may or may not be a vasodialator or constrictor depending on what dosage you use. No heart med, no heart conditions, vascular conditions, or any such thing.

I can probably blow your heart up with four pills mixed the way I take it. So be careful.



Good luck

[charger69]

Both are outdated.

For fat burning effects there are better and safer ways.

Yohimbine is crap that should not be mixed with ephedrine.

Asprin is basically useless. Take a baby asprin a day. No need for retarded ratios etc. Elevate urine acidity and whatever form of ephedrine you are taking caffine doesnt matter much because it is likely mixed with guiafenesin. Unless you are using injectable. In which case that will get expensive!

Ephedrine HCL has half the capability of sulfate.
Always buy bronkaid if using pill form.

Yohimbine is a lot of what caused the stroke and heart attack issues imo.

Dont mixi it with shit that may or may not be a vasodialator or constrictor depending on what dosage you use. No heart med, no heart conditions, vascular conditions, or any such thing.

I can probably blow your heart up with four pills mixed the way I take it. So be careful.



Good luck

Studies show that the aspirin aspect of the ECA mix was only effective for fat loss in obese people.
I used to just use EC.


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[The road]

Studies show that the aspirin aspect of the ECA mix was only effective for fat loss in obese people.
I used to just use EC.


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The study I saw was in female rats.

Doctox got me studying into it a lot.
Its great for explosive energy but as windex said it is not good to use stims unless there is no other way.

Pretty soon you are dependant and its slightly counterproductive towards anabolism.

If it ups adrenaline it increases cortisol and that is the enemy of growth.

Though not getting in a good workout because of motivational factors won't get a person anywhere.

I wish I had never touched the shit.

[PTROIDE]

Both are outdated.

For fat burning effects there are better and safer ways.

Yohimbine is crap that should not be mixed with ephedrine.

Asprin is basically useless. Take a baby asprin a day. No need for retarded ratios etc. Elevate urine acidity and whatever form of ephedrine you are taking caffine doesnt matter much because it is likely mixed with guiafenesin. Unless you are using injectable. In which case that will get expensive!

Ephedrine HCL has half the capability of sulfate.
Always buy bronkaid if using pill form.

Yohimbine is a lot of what caused the stroke and heart attack issues imo.

Dont mixi it with shit that may or may not be a vasodialator or constrictor depending on what dosage you use. No heart med, no heart conditions, vascular conditions, or any such thing.

I can probably blow your heart up with four pills mixed the way I take it. So be careful.



Good luck

what is the others betters and safer ways for fat burning instead EC nowadays? EC is outdated?

[i_SLAM_cougars]

what is the others betters and safer ways for fat burning instead EC nowadays? EC is outdated?

Enhanced lipolysis from using growth hormone .

Eating a in a caloric deficit while protecting lean tissue with AAS (Primo/Tren )

[GearHeaded]

what is the others betters and safer ways for fat burning instead EC nowadays? EC is outdated?

in my opinion, stimulates and over stimulant use is not effective for fat burning in regards to the risk/reward factor.. too much negative risk for the slight fat burning effects you get from them.


more effective strategy .. timing plays a role.

500mcg of HGH frag or 2iu HGH taken upon waking.
3iu insulin (advanced users only)
5mg Yohimbe
20mcg Clen

30 mins after taking that, then you do 40 minutes of steady state fasted cardio.. do that 4-7 days a week depending on where your at.

keep yourself in a calorie deficit .

then running some
Var/Winny
Primo
Tren
and some extra Clen

when in that calorie deficit , your going to have extremely positive nutrient partitioning and get extremely lean .. without all the stimulants.
the winny will directly blunt cortisol , which means you won't be able to store body fat and you won't break down muscle tissue and gluconeogenisis will be hindered.
the Var is an anabolic and will up regulate creatine phosphate and help you your burn fuel for energy and ATP production.
Primo will help you hold onto a ton of muscle while in a calorie deficit and enhance protein synthesis and nitrogen retention.
the Tren, well um yeah .. that simply makes you a god the high androgen load of Tren will transform you cosmetically and when in a calorie deficit it does help you get lean.
the Clen is a direct fat burner, but also has minor stimulant effects while at the same time having minor anabolic effects..


want to add some more and still not rely on stimulants..
add in injectible SR9009 , and/or Cardarine..

both are PPAR agonist and not stimulants that will help mobilize the use of fatty acids and thus help you get leaner and be more efficient at exercise (I,e, more efficient at burning fuel for energy)


many better ways to go lean simply rely on a bunch of stimulants

[The Deadlifting Dog]

GH nailed it as far as how to use meds to lose weight.
He is one of the smartest MFers on here in regards to gear.

However...
I would like to touch on another matter of weight loss.

Let's say you can "magically" lose that 10-20lbs of fat you want to lose.
Tren and clen or ECY or surgery or whatever....

Unless you change your diet and lifestyle you will put that weight back on.
So unless you are simply trying to lean out for a show or a photoshoot or a wedding or whatever...

You need to change your diet and lifestyle.

So my take has always been for long term fat loss....
Don't rely on drugs to cut the weight.
Use the drugs to hold onto the muscle while you cut weight with diet and exercise.


And in rereading GH's post... I pretty much parroted his words.


Why risk your health taking stims when you are just going to put the weight back on once you stop the stims?

[GearHeaded]

over use of stimulants is a great way to lose muscle , lose your appetite for clean nutrition, lose sleep and not recover well..
none of which are most guys goals

much better ways to get lean and hold onto muscle

[killionb12]

in my opinion, stimulates and over stimulant use is not effective for fat burning in regards to the risk/reward factor.. too much negative risk for the slight fat burning effects you get from them.


more effective strategy .. timing plays a role.

500mcg of HGH frag or 2iu HGH taken upon waking.
3iu insulin (advanced users only)
5mg Yohimbe
20mcg Clen

30 mins after taking that, then you do 40 minutes of steady state fasted cardio.. do that 4-7 days a week depending on where your at.

keep yourself in a calorie deficit .

then running some
Var/Winny
Primo
Tren
and some extra Clen

when in that calorie deficit , your going to have extremely positive nutrient partitioning and get extremely lean .. without all the stimulants.
the winny will directly blunt cortisol , which means you won't be able to store body fat and you won't break down muscle tissue and gluconeogenisis will be hindered.
the Var is an anabolic and will up regulate creatine phosphate and help you your burn fuel for energy and ATP production.
Primo will help you hold onto a ton of muscle while in a calorie deficit and enhance protein synthesis and nitrogen retention.
the Tren, well um yeah .. that simply makes you a god the high androgen load of Tren will transform you cosmetically and when in a calorie deficit it does help you get lean.
the Clen is a direct fat burner, but also has minor stimulant effects while at the same time having minor anabolic effects..


want to add some more and still not rely on stimulants..
add in injectible SR9009 , and/or Cardarine..

both are PPAR agonist and not stimulants that will help mobilize the use of fatty acids and thus help you get leaner and be more efficient at exercise (I,e, more efficient at burning fuel for energy)


many better ways to go lean simply rely on a bunch of stimulants

Good advice here for sure. That being said what are your thoughts about cycling the Clen with ECA stack to give receptors a rest?


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[PTROIDE]

for someone who dont want take too mutch, a simple 20mg var, 20mcg clen 5mg yohimbe before workout for a couple of weeks for a 85kg guy 180cm and 10-12% fat, in calorie deficit its enought to do a boost in a safe fat loss and safe?