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09-01-2013, 10:22 AM #641
Day 7. Woke up and was quite surprised to weigh in @ 172.8! If (big IF) everything is staying consistant this puts me @ 12.2% bf... Might try to squeak in one more bod pod Friday if I can find the time.
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09-01-2013, 10:23 AM #642
hahaha, thanks braz, i think! Don't worry, Wednesday is my cheat day, and I haven't had one in a long while. I'm shooting for a massive mac and cheese burger with bacon!
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09-01-2013, 10:24 AM #643~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-01-2013, 02:31 PM #644
Aust I saw awhile back you posted a link for a bod pod locator. I cant seem to find it or remember the thread I saw it in. I have googled them. But not getting any results.
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09-01-2013, 02:49 PM #645~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-01-2013, 06:04 PM #646
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09-02-2013, 04:27 AM #647
^ No. those won't work.
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09-02-2013, 06:10 AM #648Originally Posted by austinite
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09-02-2013, 12:52 PM #649
Hey austenite.
Starting the stack today. Have dropped bf from 21% at start of June to roughly 18 now mainly just through cleaning up my nutrition. 220 lbs today, working off 2400 cals daily. Trying to loosely carb cycle, rowing back on non lifting days. Will keep you updated. Cheers, Kevin.
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09-02-2013, 12:54 PM #650~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-02-2013, 02:38 PM #651
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09-02-2013, 02:43 PM #652~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-02-2013, 02:50 PM #653
Perfect, thanks for your response (pretty limited as to choice where I live, and thanks to Amazon's removal of free delivery I'm looking at circa £45 for the whole stack). I'll go and buy the 300mcg tabs.
Apologies if this has been answered before, but is the reason over 800mcg inappropriate due to the potency/toxicity?
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09-02-2013, 02:52 PM #654
The reason all of the doses are set is because I spent a lot of time researching the compounds and lots of trial and error to find a stack that is both; safe and effective. Any variation would not be the stack, so reviews would have to stay off this thread.
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09-02-2013, 02:54 PM #655
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09-02-2013, 06:39 PM #656Originally Posted by BigPimpin76
Allthough I called GNC and asked about Picolinate and chronium Chelate and they do have it for sale.
Will both these products help or is there as specific brand that works better?
Also, I belive that they sell bitter orange ( synephrine) in ist organic or natural herbal root form.
Can this option be chosen as well?
Thanks in advance
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09-02-2013, 06:40 PM #657
^ Yeah that should be fine. That's what synephrine is, bitter orange/citrus extract.
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09-02-2013, 07:23 PM #658Originally Posted by austinite
Good write up.
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09-02-2013, 07:25 PM #659~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-02-2013, 07:32 PM #660Originally Posted by austinite
Lol, your first post said 12%! It seems like a good stack. What I ment to ask is do you think you can get leaner with this stack or with t3?
I'll be there again soon. I've got 1/4 of my cycle ordered. I'll be making a thread in October now for it. I'm shooting for 10%. Go hard or go home now for me.
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09-02-2013, 07:37 PM #661
Bod pod few days ago and it was 12.06!!! Not 12.
T-Dogg. I absolutely understand that you want a comparison. But I just can't do that. The reason why is because my BF has been different over the years, diets are different, etc... So I have no way of quantifying it. This is a safe, effective stack that doesnt waste muscle and requires no AAS. That's all I can tell you next to all the reviews and mini logs in this thread. Brazensol went from 17%+ down to 12+ with it.
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09-02-2013, 07:42 PM #662Originally Posted by austinite
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09-02-2013, 07:42 PM #663
Hmmm, I think about 50 bucks? something like that. Amazon is cheap! Synephrine will last for months...
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09-02-2013, 07:53 PM #664Junior Member
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Would taking these be better than taking grenade? I actually bought into the hype and bought some of this, but have never finished/used it.
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09-02-2013, 07:54 PM #665
I absolutely understand that you want a comparison. But I just can't do that. The reason why is because my BF has been different over the years, diets are different, etc... So I have no way of quantifying it. This is a safe, effective stack that doesnt waste muscle and requires no AAS. That's all I can tell you next to all the reviews and mini logs in this thread. Brazensol went from 17%+ down to 12+ with it.
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09-02-2013, 10:17 PM #666
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09-02-2013, 10:18 PM #667
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09-03-2013, 05:45 AM #668Originally Posted by austinite
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09-03-2013, 08:38 AM #669
12% is pretty good
i see they used the good ole siri model. last time i went they used brozek and i dont think it is accurate for me.
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09-03-2013, 11:30 AM #670~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-03-2013, 12:52 PM #671Originally Posted by austinite
What I found around here is bitter orange leafs to make it in tea form!!
Would that help as well??
Thanks
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09-03-2013, 12:56 PM #672~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-03-2013, 12:56 PM #673
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09-03-2013, 01:02 PM #674
Yeah I don't do comparisons because my diet has not been the same on ECA and CES. So no way to quantify it.
Synephrine is similar to Ephedrine in the metabolic pathways they share. Ephedrine is a direct agonist of Beta receptors and slightly stimulates Alpha's. Synephrine is the opposite, where it highly stimulates Alpha's, and slightly on Beta's.
What's left is caffeine and aspirin with Ephedrine. Both worthless for any type of synergetic effect, where Chromium and eGCG are actually effective and boost the efficiency of Synephrine. If we look at data side by side, CES should yield better results, can be used long term and 10 times safer than ECA.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-03-2013, 01:12 PM #675
Geat write up, So you are saying that when eating at maintenence - these products give a big enough deficit to loose weight eating the same?
Think i might give it a try!
Are the use of any of these products likely to cause any harm?
And did u get any pallpitations etc when using these?
Thanks
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09-03-2013, 01:15 PM #676
^ pretty much. You'll burn more calories through the day, than you normally would without it. So your TDEE is in fact, higher than what you've calculated.
No harm as stated at these doses. This is intended for a safe and effective solution.
I have an irregular heartbeat, have all my life. Irregular heartbeats are not dangerous.
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09-03-2013, 02:00 PM #677
so youre saying that based on ur understanding of ECA and CES and the components thereof, u think the components of CES will work better together than the components of ECA?
also when u say "safer" u mean because of the risk involved with Ephedrine and the heart? could u elaborate a bit?
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09-03-2013, 02:11 PM #678
You are correct on both accounts.
Ephedrine and synephrine have different Cardiovascular risks. Ephedrine causes direct impacts, which is why you get the jitters and "nervousness". Synephrine does not, but still produces results in conjunction with the other 2 compounds. Also ephedrine is shorter lived, meaning you feel effects almost immediately. Synephrine is slower and eases you into the effects.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-03-2013, 02:36 PM #679Originally Posted by austinite
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09-03-2013, 02:50 PM #680
hmm.. ok thx ill have to chek this stuff out. i have used ECA before, but as i get older i have noticed i dont like being all jacked up anymore. does T3 jack u up at all? i suppose i should NOT consider clenbuterol in light of my previous statement..?
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