Austinite's Fat Loss Protocol using Over the Counter Products.

[austinite]

hmm.. ok thx ill have to chek this stuff out. i have used ECA before, but as i get older i have noticed i dont like being all jacked up anymore. does T3 jack u up at all? i suppose i should NOT consider clenbuterol in light of my previous statement..?

T3 only messes with me the first week. With muscle aches. But that goes away...

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...how-works.html

Clen is garbage in my opinion. Total garbage.

[bass]

^ pretty much. You'll burn more calories through the day, than you normally would without it. So your TDEE is in fact, higher than what you've calculated.

No harm as stated at these doses. This is intended for a safe and effective solution.

I have an irregular heartbeat, have all my life. Irregular heartbeats are not dangerous.

Any concerns, consult a physician, Im not a doctor.

what's your estimate, how much higher? percentage estimate would be fine.

I also have PVC's and the only thing that triggers them is Coffee, and this morning I had one cup and guess what, my heart beat is acting up! but like you said they are nothing to worry about, 50% of the world have them and only about 20% know they have them. once you notice it you'll always notice them.

[austinite]

lol. Good question... Put it this way, the weight that I lost, I could have done on a ~ 500+ calorie deficit (not sure if I could have lost THAT much in a month though). So if I use my TDEE, probably between 10 and 15%.

[bass]

that's a damn good number, even half of that would be great!

[austinite]

that's a damn good number, even half of that would be great!

Well shoot. Brazensol is a better example really, he ran it longer with no interruptions. I had to discontinue all supps for 3 weeks to narrow down a vitamin D deficiency. His reviews and mini-log here is awesome. Heck, he's encouraged me even more. Obviously put in the hard work and diet. Going from 17+ BF down to the 12's in a considerably short time.... amazing and as he states, side effect free.

[bass]

will check it out for sure.

[Brazensol]

Bass -

Ran the first cycle the full 30 days and then took the one week recommended break. Ran cycle #2 for 28 days. Started having sleeping issues the last week or so but I really can't say for sure if it had anything at all to do with this but was the only real change I had made. I do know I don't normally have sleep issues. Anyway, took the one week break again and started cycle #3. Been on it for 9 days now and I am pretty sure I am in the 11.xx's for bf%. First day or two of cycle #1 I had a bit of nausea but again can't for sure pin it to the fat burn protocol. That was also about the time I started doing fasted cardio and more than likely that was the cause. Other than that no issues. I will keep running a 4 week on 1 week off cycle as this seems to work fine for me. I hated it when I tried ephedrine. It did nasty things to my heartbeat (I also have PVC's) and just made me feel all around lousy. This synephrine really works well for me!!!

[Brazensol]

May as well throw it out there since I'm here; 170.0 even this morning! According to the bathroom scale bf is 11.7% but I have my suspicions it's not that low. Trying to find some time to get one more bod pod in before leaving Monday. Movers come tomorrow moring so I just don't know.

[bass]

thanks for the info Braze, its very encouraging. just got my stack, very excited and can't wait to start BTW, I have one of those Omron handheld fat progress monitor, the same as they use in gyms. i'll be using that to monitor my progress. I won't change diet or workouts, just so I can see how effective it is.

[bass]

Austinite, I got the 1 kgm bag of Synephrine but it doesn't have a measuring scoop, can you recommend something to measure with?

[austinite]

American Weigh Gemini-20 Portable Milligram Scale, 20 by 0.001 G: Kitchen & Dining: Amazon.com

[bass]

oh man! I was hoping for something I could use now! really is it that critical to get the correct measurement? what is 10mgs in teaspoons, have you by any chance measured it?

[austinite]

oh man! I was hoping for something I could use now! really is it that critical to get the correct measurement? what is 10mgs in teaspoons, have you by any chance measured it?

lol, yeah, you don't want screw this up. High doses are not fun. It's such a small dose, that you can put it on the tip of your pinky and half of it would fall off probably.

[bass]

no shit! I probably have 5 years worth! okay, I'll go to walmart or local stores and see if they have them. amazon takes too long to get here. thanks bro!

[austinite]

yeah just look for a micro-scoop and compare to a quarter like in this picture...

[Brazensol]

austinite, i got the 1 kgm bag of synephrine but it doesn't have a measuring scoop, can you recommend something to measure with?

one kilogram! Holy smokes!!!

[austinite]

one kilogram! Holy smokes!!!

I think he's dealing!!!

[GoHardBro]

Hey there,
I've decided I'm gunna try this to help kick up my fat loss progress, having a bit of trouble with it atm haha

Anyways, I've got these in mind, would they all be useable for this?

The EGCg, says it's 200mg of EGCg, so I would have to take 1600mcg of this suplement as it's a 400g tub (I think I have that right)
The Synephrine, woudl be a straight forward 10mg scoop
And the Chomium would be 2 tablets (400*2=800mcg)

Will hopefully buy this stuff in the next week or so, just wanna make sure I didn't miss anything or got the products wrong

[austinite]

^ Everything looks good there gohard.

[cj111]

maintains healthy blood sugar levels in healthy individuals

I don't get that, this product doesn't work on someone that's unhealthy? I've never even heard of chromium until I read this thread.

[austinite]

I don't get that, this product doesn't work on someone that's unhealthy? I've never even heard of chromium until I read this thread.

Healthy is likely in reference to Optimum. You can be healthy, but that doesn't mean you're at optimum levels. For example, B12 serum range is 200 to 900. Anything in there is healthy. But optimum, would be 3000+.

[BigPimpin76]

Would any of these bad boys work?
Found these on Ebay



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[austinite]

Ascorbic acid is vitamin C. The bitter orange you have there is all fillers and little to no synephrine.

No good.

[FRDave]

I guess I'll start this stack tomorrow since I been off the ECA stack a good 2 weeks now. I can't make a fair comparison though since I just started doing daily cardio for the first time since my high school days and been loosing average of 2lbs per week these past two weeks.

Or should I hold off till I stall? Hmmmm...

[austinite]

lol, decisions decisions! I say go for it if you want that edge!

[FRDave]

lol, decisions decisions! I say go for it if you want that edge!

I probably will since I know it's only going to get harder and harder as the weight drops.

[bass]

I think he's dealing!!!

heck I'm broke already! damn that's a micro scoop, you weren't kidding about the size!

[austinite]

^ That's what she said!

[austinite]

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[MakaveliUK]

Hi Aust

I was looking into clen as I'm 20ish percent BF, but think I'll give this a go first. Do you know if this has any detrimental effects on
muscle maintenance or catabolism when at a defecit?

[MakaveliUK]

Also, what is the differene between these in terms of EGCG? It says one is 80% catachins and one is 40% however they're both 400mg pills. Shall I but the 80% ones?

[bass]

Hi Aust

I was looking into clen as I'm 20ish percent BF, but think I'll give this a go first. Do you know if this has any detrimental effects on
muscle maintenance or catabolism when at a defecit?

clen is shit, I mean that in a bad way.

[MakaveliUK]

clen is shit, I mean that in a bad way.

Perhaps I'll try this first then. Will save me money too.

[austinite]

Hi Aust

I was looking into clen as I'm 20ish percent BF, but think I'll give this a go first. Do you know if this has any detrimental effects on
muscle maintenance or catabolism when at a defecit?

Also, what is the differene between these in terms of EGCG? It says one is 80% catachins and one is 40% however they're both 400mg pills. Shall I but the 80% ones?

Hey buddy. This is all explained in the thread. There is no muscle wasting. Nothing to worry about.

Use the calculations in the original post at the very bottom to break down the 80%.

Let me know if you have issues.

Good luck.

[MakaveliUK]

clen is shit, I mean that in a bad way.

I'll give this a go

Hey buddy. This is all explained in the thread. There is no muscle wasting. Nothing to worry about.

Use the calculations in the original post at the very bottom to break down the 80%.

Let me know if you have issues.

Good luck.

Thanks! I start uni in 2 weeks so would love to be in shape by the term starting after Christmas. Time to order!

[austinite]

^ good goal. Enjoy and keep us posted!

Also agree with bass, clen is garbage and unhealthy.

[BIGTIMEPUSH]

So I'm almost done with my first cycle and the weight stopped decreasing. I think I am looking thinner and more cut, but the weight loss has stopped completely. In fact the last three days it has steadily increased about a full pound. Am I just gaining muscle mass or water weight? I have been keeping up with my macros and been drinking about the same amount of water everyday... Am I just overreacting because of the scale, I mean I think I look more cut...? Overall tho I have lost about 8 pounds.

[austinite]

Could be gaining some muscle. If you're almost done then it's almost time for that week off. That week break is very important to get you restarted on the fat loss again. These ere short burst type cycles and the effects wear off towards the end of each cycle.

Congrats on the weight loss man, 8 lbs is outstanding, nothing to shake a stick at! Better than I did.

Dang, seems everyone is kicking my ass with their results.

[Brett N]

First experience with protocol -

Woke up and took 800 chromium, 600 EGCG and 20 mg synephrine. Took just the synephrine 2x over the weekend to see if it would affect me weird and it didn't so I elected to start with the 2 scoops. Took with fish oil, vit c, zinc

I really didn't feel anything which I wasn't expecting to. About an hour or so later I felt a little something in my stomach. Like a nervous feeling but not jittery. It wasn't bad at all and I could easily tolerate it.

Approximately 5-6 hours after taking it, I was dragging ass. I mean I was more tired than I have been over the last 5 months of exercising. All I did was go for a walk in the morning and planned on lifting in the afternoon. I fell asleep watching some tv before I planned on working out and didn't wake up until 2 hours later.

Not sure what would cause this? I started TRT last week and I am due for my 4th shot tomorrow am. Other than that, nothing has changed. My wife experienced a very similar feeling and I didn't tell her any of my symptoms, I just asked her how her day was and she described almost the exact same thing. Normally, we both take a pre workout on the am before doing our cardio to help us get going and we both skipped it today. Could these just be caffeine withdrawal symptoms?

[austinite]

First experience with protocol -

Woke up and took 800 chromium, 600 EGCG and 20 mg synephrine. Took just the synephrine 2x over the weekend to see if it would affect me weird and it didn't so I elected to start with the 2 scoops. Took with fish oil, vit c, zinc

I really didn't feel anything which I wasn't expecting to. About an hour or so later I felt a little something in my stomach. Like a nervous feeling but not jittery. It wasn't bad at all and I could easily tolerate it.

Approximately 5-6 hours after taking it, I was dragging ass. I mean I was more tired than I have been over the last 5 months of exercising. All I did was go for a walk in the morning and planned on lifting in the afternoon. I fell asleep watching some tv before I planned on working out and didn't wake up until 2 hours later.

Not sure what would cause this? I started TRT last week and I am due for my 4th shot tomorrow am. Other than that, nothing has changed. My wife experienced a very similar feeling and I didn't tell her any of my symptoms, I just asked her how her day was and she described almost the exact same thing. Normally, we both take a pre workout on the am before doing our cardio to help us get going and we both skipped it today. Could these just be caffeine withdrawal symptoms?

Interesting. I haven't experienced that. But it's somewhat similar to what brazensol experienced in this post. Caffeine withdrawal can be pretty nasty at times. You can keep going to see if it wears off, or try an elimination process by removing one compound at a time until you find the culprit, if any.