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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrgaland
    On empty stomach? Whoa, you have stomach of steel. Good for you. I'm not so lucky
    Fasted cardio is the best way to burn bf! Looking back to the very start of this thread it says fine to take all on an empty stomach. I certainly wouldn't say stomach of steel!

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    Any one else laugh when they got their 10mg synephrine scoop!!!

    How much water are you guys mixing it with or are you taking it straight up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blsizzler View Post
    Fasted cardio is the best way to burn bf! Looking back to the very start of this thread it says fine to take all on an empty stomach. I certainly wouldn't say stomach of steel!
    Fasted cardio has absolutely zero advantage on burning. What's in your stomach does not determine how much you burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Fasted cardio has absolutely zero advantage on burning. What's in your stomach does not determine how much you burn.
    So what does? And does what's in your stomach determine energy only??

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    I don't want to derail the thread. But you'd actually burn more calories per hour post resistance training. It's all about that steady HR, post resistance you'd be at a higher HR to begin with.

    Food in stomach means nothing. If eating food with help you run longer, go for it. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't eat.
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    Austin,, I Just ordered everything but I have a few questions
    I was 230+lbs fat a year and a half ago, im now at 190 around 19-20%BF
    my questions are
    I work out at 7pm weekdays and early am weekends, so what time should I take the stack, I don't want to stay up all night buying green frying pans and ninja blenders,

    second question I take 1MR or Jackd pre workout and sip on modern BCAAs during workout, can I still take these with the stack or should I stop them??

    my goal is to be around 13% bf or less not worried about weight cause with weight training weigh isn't an issue more concerned about body fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingman1 View Post
    Austin,, I Just ordered everything but I have a few questions
    I was 230+lbs fat a year and a half ago, im now at 190 around 19-20%BF
    my questions are
    I work out at 7pm weekdays and early am weekends, so what time should I take the stack, I don't want to stay up all night buying green frying pans and ninja blenders,

    second question I take 1MR or Jackd pre workout and sip on modern BCAAs during workout, can I still take these with the stack or should I stop them??

    my goal is to be around 13% bf or less not worried about weight cause with weight training weigh isn't an issue more concerned about body fat
    Synephrine at least, should be taken pre workout. the rest doesnt matter. Just stay consistent with timing.

    Jackd and whatever else is not part of my stack.. Please read the massive words in red in the beginning of the original post. Please do not review the stack in this thread if you are not following my protocol.

    Best of luck to you.
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    trust me I did read your post,, and I plan to follow it exactly as you stated it,
    so if I work out at 7 lets say I take the Syn. at 5 or 5:30 it should be out of my system by 11:30 when I go to sleep. or worst case scenario melatonin ok to help with sleep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingman1 View Post
    trust me I did read your post,, and I plan to follow it exactly as you stated it,
    so if I work out at 7 lets say I take the Syn. at 5 or 5:30 it should be out of my system by 11:30 when I go to sleep. or worst case scenario melatonin ok to help with sleep?
    Yeah that sounds about right. Of course, everyone is different, so I suggest you try it out when you're not working the following day, that way if it keep you up, you're not late for work
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    my sugar (carb) cravings are the most intense after 60 min of spin. i am so depleted of something??? and hunting down every carb (bread, rice crackers, sugar...it doesn't matter) i can within an hour of the workout. Seems i can't be satiated JUST IN THIS SITUATION - often at the detriment to an entire day of eating clean and the intense cardio session

    i may actually hit my goal if i could get this ONE MAJOR issue under control.

    In this situation, would you recommend a different timing for stack or splitting stack. (When do I take this stack and how often?
    Because Synephrine works very quickly, I recommend that you take everything pre-workout. Once a day is all you need.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    my sugar (carb) cravings are the most intense after 60 min of spin. i am so depleted of something??? and hunting down every carb (bread, rice crackers, sugar...it doesn't matter) i can within an hour of the workout. Seems i can't be satiated JUST IN THIS SITUATION - often at the detriment to an entire day of eating clean and the intense cardio session

    i may actually hit my goal if i could get this ONE MAJOR issue under control.

    In this situation, would you recommend a different timing for stack or splitting stack. (When do I take this stack and how often?
    Because Synephrine works very quickly, I recommend that you take everything pre-workout. Once a day is all you need.)


    Synephrine at least, should be taken pre workout. the rest doesnt matter. Just stay consistent with timing.

    Doses are taken daily for 30 days, then you take a week off from everything. Cycle as often as you'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Synephrine at least, should be taken pre workout. the rest doesnt matter. Just stay consistent with timing. Doses are taken daily for 30 days, then you take a week off from everything. Cycle as often as you'd like.


    I'm thinking of upping this dose. I've read some take 50mgs at once and others 10-20mgs three times a day. Have you play around with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    I'm thinking of upping this dose. I've read some take 50mgs at once and others 10-20mgs three times a day. Have you play around with this?
    Yes. Not recommended. Not the stack.
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    shopping....on amazon

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    shopping....on amazon


    Should be about 44$ shipped
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post

    Should be about 44$ shipped
    Accurate since I just got mine! Way cheaper and safer than the eca stack...glad I found this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck<
    Accurate since I just got mine! Way cheaper and safer than the eca stack...glad I found this thread


    Yup. I'll be cycling it for awhile, or until austinie gives me something new to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Yup. I'll be cycling it for awhile, or until austinie gives me something new to play with.
    That's what she said..
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    Awesome thread as always austinite. Ordered everything from amazon, just waiting. In your opinion would you take this stack along side of Alphamine (different core ingredients) or as a replacement for Alphamine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel1982 View Post
    Awesome thread as always austinite. Ordered everything from amazon, just waiting. In your opinion would you take this stack along side of Alphamine (different core ingredients) or as a replacement for Alphamine?
    Great.

    Please read the paragraph in the beginning of the original post. It's in large red letters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I don't want to derail the thread. But you'd actually burn more calories per hour post resistance training. It's all about that steady HR, post resistance you'd be at a higher HR to begin with.

    Food in stomach means nothing. If eating food with help you run longer, go for it. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't eat.
    Not to derail it further:

    Thermogenic advantage of fed-state training
    An interesting topic Schoenfeld discussed is the increased thermic effect of exercise that occurs when done in the fed state. Illustrating this, Lee et al observed greater excess post-exercise oxygen consumption (EPOC) in both high- and low-intensity exercise after consuming a glucose-milk beverage than doing the bouts fasted.11 While this sounds exciting, the actual thermic advantage is minor. The milk beverage treatment’s EPOC during the 2-hour postexercise recovery period after the high-intensity bout was 211.5 ml O2/kg, while that of the fasted high-intensity treatment was 154.8 ml O2/kg, a difference of 56.7 ml O2/kg. Given an average-sized 80 kg person, this comes out to 4536 ml O2/kg. Now stick with me here... Converting this to liters makes it 4.536 L. The kicker is that 1L of O2 is the equivalent of 5 kcal, so the thermic advantage of the fed training in the high-intensity treatment amounted to roughly 23 kcal burned in the 2-hour recovery period, or 11.5 kcal/hour. In the hypothetical event of this effect lingering in a linear fashion for the next 10 hours, that’s only an extra 115 kcal burned. Could this accumulate over time in the dieter’s favor? Possibly. However, the bigger picture is covered in a review by LaForgia et al,12 whose conclusions about EPOC imply a general lack of impact: “...studies incorporating exercise stimuli resulting in prolonged EPOC durations have identified that the EPOC comprises only 6-15% of the net total oxygen cost of the exercise. [...] the earlier research optimism regarding an important role for the EPOC in weight loss is generally unfounded.”
    The most important thing about cardio is that it's done consistently. Whether early fasted or at night so long as you do it regularly. Lyle thinks that fasted may benefit with fat mobilization the leaner you become but again, differences aren't going to be that significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Great.

    Please read the paragraph in the beginning of the original post. It's in large red letters.
    I'm not asking if I can add anything to the stack :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    Not to derail it further:



    The most important thing about cardio is that it's done consistently. Whether early fasted or at night so long as you do it regularly. Lyle thinks that fasted may benefit with fat mobilization the leaner you become but again, differences aren't going to be that significant.
    Good post Docd. I agree. Like Nike says... Just do it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel1982 View Post
    I'm not asking if I can add anything to the stack :/
    Alphamine is not part of my stack. With its presence, it would not be my stack. My stack is intended to be safe and effective using the doses that I indicate. Doses which took me a very long time to come up with and saved everyone hundreds upon hundreds of research hours.

    My stack is EGCG, Chromium and synephrine only.

    I really and truly appreciate your understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blsizzler View Post
    Any one else laugh when they got their 10mg synephrine scoop!!!

    How much water are you guys mixing it with or are you taking it straight up?
    I don't mix my synephrine - I put it in a folded sticky note and pour it on my tongue. (a little tap on paper gets 100% of it) Then I wash it down with about 6 oz of water. The amount of synephrine is so small, I was afraid I would get inaccurate measurements mixing it with water, like some sticking to the glass or not pouring out.

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    ok, thanks anyway. I'll try it and give feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel1982 View Post
    ok, thanks anyway. I'll try it and give feedback.
    Create your own thread for that dood. This thread is for this stack ONLY!

    I got your back austinite

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    Oops. double post
    Last edited by Nathaniel1982; 10-02-2013 at 05:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    Create your own thread for that dood. This thread is for this stack ONLY!

    I got your back austinite
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    ok, thanks anyway. I'll try it and give feedback.
    lol. Thanks GL.

    Yes, folks, anything that involves other products would need to be reviewed elsewhere, not in this thread. Hate to have to go through and delete posts, so far the thread is full of great reviews.
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    Hi - Sorry if this was asked already:

    Does this stack also act as an appetite suppressant? If not, can I add an appetite suppressant?

    Ok to take with other daily vitamins, etc...?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjbandit View Post
    Hi - Sorry if this was asked already:

    Does this stack also act as an appetite suppressant? If not, can I add an appetite suppressant?

    Ok to take with other daily vitamins, etc...?

    Thanks
    It should only suppress your appetite for sweets. If you add anything to my stack it would not be my stack. This stack is intended to be safe and effective using ONLY the 3 compounds I mentioned. Adding to the stack is modifying the stack. If you do so, please do not review the your progress in this thread.

    Vitamins are fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Should be about 44$ shipped
    The microscoops put me over just a smidgen.

    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    Accurate since I just got mine! Way cheaper and safer than the eca stack...glad I found this thread
    x2!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ______ is not part of my stack. With its presence, it would not be my stack. My stack is intended to be safe and effective using the doses that I indicate. Doses which took me a very long time to come up with and saved everyone hundreds upon hundreds of research hours.

    My stack is EGCG, Chromium and synephrine only.

    I really and truly appreciate your understanding.
    You should just make this your signature austinite... Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by starscream View Post
    You should just make this your signature austinite... Haha
    No kidding. I cant make the statement any larger on the original post yet folks still ask the same damn question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    No kidding. I cant make the statement any larger on the original post yet folks still ask the same damn question.


    So I can't add pop tarts to the stack. Damn...

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    Add whatever you want. Just not any type of stimulant or pre-workout or some sort of thermo you bought at the store. Vitamins and minerals are fine.
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    I admit I am guilty of asking once in the past.. you go out of your way to help everyone! Big props!

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    If someone had moderately high blood pressure, are you 100% against someone taking this stack?

    I take Hawthorne berry extract and has helped lower blood pressure.

    Would you recommend something else for blood pressure while on this.

    Not looking to change the stack, just want to know if there is a safe way to keep BP in check while doing this.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjbandit View Post
    If someone had moderately high blood pressure, are you 100% against someone taking this stack?

    I take Hawthorne berry extract and has helped lower blood pressure.

    Would you recommend something else for blood pressure while on this.

    Not looking to change the stack, just want to know if there is a safe way to keep BP in check while doing this.

    Thanks.
    I would consult a doctor. I use Cialis and Benicar daily in the moorning for blood pressure and have no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Add whatever you want. Just not any type of stimulant or pre-workout or some sort of thermo you bought at the store. Vitamins and minerals are fine.
    bcaa and creatine are ok to add with the pop tart

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