Austinite's Fat Loss Protocol using Over the Counter Products.

[austinite]

I just got all the stuff! Hope I will at least look like David Hasselhoff after a month!

When should I take the dosage in OFF DAYS?

Morning? Empty? After meal?

Great! Keep me posted on your progress. On off days take it the same time you would normally workout. All water soluble so empty stomach is fine. Even an hour after food is ok. Just not with food directly.

[Gaspaco]

Great! Keep me posted on your progress. On off days take it the same time you would normally workout. All water soluble so empty stomach is fine. Even an hour after food is ok. Just not with food directly.

I workout usually around 10:00 am. (working late)

Can I do off days first thing in the morning on empty stomach?

...and than 30min later breakfast?? Longer?

[GEEZII]

hey quick question, with the Synephrine, because i don't have that micro scoop, can i just weigh out 10mg/20mg on a digital scale?

[Back In Black]

hey quick question, with the Synephrine, because i don't have that micro scoop, can i just weigh out 10mg/20mg on a digital scale?

If you have a micro scale yes.

[austinite]

I workout usually around 10:00 am. (working late)

Can I do off days first thing in the morning on empty stomach?

...and than 30min later breakfast?? Longer?

Absolutely! go for it!

[austinite]

hey quick question, with the Synephrine, because i don't have that micro scoop, can i just weigh out 10mg/20mg on a digital scale?

If you have a micro scale yes.

^^ this. You can also get micro-scoops online, most Synephrine dealers will provide one with your purchase.

[GEEZII]

thanks for that! ill ask them. i'm looking forward to trying this out to drop the bf more.
all your threads are very knowledgeable

[Gaspaco]

Absolutely! go for it!

[Walnutz]

Would you say the synephrine acts on the same receptors as ephedrine?
whats the exact difference of it vs Eph?
I know it is less "speedy/buzz" then ephedrine.
Thought I would ask.
Thank you for the thread!

[austinite]

Would you say the synephrine acts on the same receptors as ephedrine?
whats the exact difference of it vs Eph?
I know it is less "speedy/buzz" then ephedrine.
Thought I would ask.
Thank you for the thread!

Yes they both act on alpha and Beta-adrenergic receptors. However, they do act differently. I can write a book about how they function exactly, but I don't feel like it, lol. But in short...

- Ephedrine is a direct beta agonist, and Synephrine is a direct alpha.
- Ephedrine lightly activates Alpha, and Synephrine lightly activates Beta.

Now of course Beta's are the crucial ones which is why Ephedrine is more potent. But I believe that 20mg of Synephrine as I experimented, is a safe and very effective dose to yield results with Betas. Mainly B3.

Also noteworthy...

- Ephedrine will yield a higher resting metabolic rate.
- Heart rate elevates higher with Ephedrine.
- Body core temperature increase difference is negligible.
- Blood pressure increase difference is negligible.

Hope that helps.

[Walnutz]

Yes they both act on alpha and Beta-adrenergic receptors. However, they do act differently. I can write a book about how they function exactly, but I don't feel like it, lol. But in short...

- Ephedrine is a direct beta agonist, and Synephrine is a direct alpha.
- Ephedrine lightly activates Alpha, and Synephrine lightly activates Beta.

Now of course Beta's are the crucial ones which is why Ephedrine is more potent. But I believe that 20mg of Synephrine as I experimented, is a safe and very effective dose to yield results with Betas. Mainly B3.

Also noteworthy...

- Ephedrine will yield a higher resting metabolic rate.
- Heart rate elevates higher with Ephedrine.
- Body core temperature increase difference is negligible.
- Blood pressure increase difference is negligible.

Hope that helps.

Yes is does, thanks a lot!

[Myers]

How would u compare this stack to an ECA stack? Which one could give u better progress ? In the same conditions ofc.

[AD]

Aus bro. Not sure if this has been asked before. Do you have an idea which of the 3 "ingredients" causes the most and which cause the least fat loss? Would you be conducting further studies with each of them individually?

[austinite]

How would u compare this stack to an ECA stack? Which one could give u better progress ? In the same conditions ofc.

No idea. You know... these comparisons are just incredibly too broad. Body response will be so individualistic. I never ran ECA at maintenence, only in an extreme caloric deficit. So I don't have the primary (diet) to help me compare.

That said... I think the effects Chromium will produce, coupled with Syn and EGCG, will actually do better in a caloric deficit.

[Gaspaco]

Hey aust!

My GF wants to do the protocol with me! Same dosage?

[austinite]

Aus bro. Not sure if this has been asked before. Do you have an idea which of the 3 "ingredients" causes the most and which cause the least fat loss? Would you be conducting further studies with each of them individually?

It's hard to say because they all work in separate areas, some directly and other indirectly. But If I had to, I'd rank them in the following order:

1. Synephrine
2. Chromium
3. EGCG

I've studied them quite a bit, but as with anything else I take, I'm always looking for more evidence and even anything that might counter what I've seen. All in all, my experience is what approves or rejects a product. But I can tell you a considerable amount of detail about all of these compounds. It gets pretty technical and I wanted the original post to be in laymans.

[austinite]

Hey aust!

My GF wants to do the protocol with me! Same dosage?

Yes, keep her at 10mg with Syn. Everything else is the same.

[AD]

I've been cutting natty for 2 months now. Would be good to throw this stack in the mix. Will start looking for them in my local drugstore but i fear they will come in much lower doses like my D3. Might try a half-strength stack. Post my results next month

[austinite]

I've been cutting natty for 2 months now. Would be good to throw this stack in the mix. Will start looking for them in my local drugstore but i fear they will come in much lower doses like my D3. Might try a half-strength stack. Post my results next month

Absolutely. Even at half strength I believe it will help you reach your goals faster. Keep me posted please.

[Gaspaco]

Yes, keep her at 10mg with Syn. Everything else is the same.

Thanks bro

[Brazensol]

Yes they both act on alpha and Beta-adrenergic receptors. However, they do act differently. I can write a book about how they function exactly, but I don't feel like it, lol. But in short...

- Ephedrine is a direct beta agonist, and Synephrine is a direct alpha.
- Ephedrine lightly activates Alpha, and Synephrine lightly activates Beta.

Now of course Beta's are the crucial ones which is why Ephedrine is more potent. But I believe that 20mg of Synephrine as I experimented, is a safe and very effective dose to yield results with Betas. Mainly B3.

Also noteworthy...

- Ephedrine will yield a higher resting metabolic rate.
- Heart rate elevates higher with Ephedrine.
- Body core temperature increase difference is negligible.
- Blood pressure increase difference is negligible.

Hope that helps.

That's good to hear because I've taken products with ephedrine and did not like the way they made my heart race.

[Brazensol]

Got the EGCG and chromium picolinate today. Got to love Amazon! Get the synephrine tomorrow. Start protocol tomorrow. Good news on the weight loss front; weighed in at 188.8 and 20.3% bf this morning! I figure I've lost 38.6 pounds of fat and gained 9-10 pounds of lean in the last 3 months or so. Hope to lose another 6-8 pounds of fat in the next thirty days with this fat burner (shrinker?) stack!!!

[SexySweetheart]

great thread austinite! I subscribed/Favorited it
~curious whats your average cost monthly to run all this?

[austinite]

great thread austinite! I subscribed/Favorited it
~curious whats your average cost monthly to run all this?

Thank you.

Cost is about $25 if you shop online.

[austinite]

Got the EGCG and chromium picolinate today. Got to love Amazon! Get the synephrine tomorrow. Start protocol tomorrow. Good news on the weight loss front; weighed in at 188.8 and 20.3% bf this morning! I figure I've lost 38.6 pounds of fat and gained 9-10 pounds of lean in the last 3 months or so. Hope to lose another 6-8 pounds of fat in the next thirty days with this fat burner (shrinker?) stack!!!

Outstanding! looking forward to this.

[AD]

i found green tea extract but it doesn't say how much ECGC, just say equiv to 1500mg dry leaf extract. according to the wiki page on green tea extract, dry extract has more than 25% of catechin. so can i assume the ecge content is 25% x 1500mg = 375mg?

[basketballfan22]

i found green tea extract but it doesn't say how much ECGC, just say equiv to 1500mg dry leaf extract. according to the wiki page on green tea extract, dry extract has more than 25% of catechin. so can i assume the ecge content is 25% x 1500mg = 375mg?

Really? That's weird. Can you post a link?

[austinite]

i found green tea extract but it doesn't say how much ECGC, just say equiv to 1500mg dry leaf extract. according to the wiki page on green tea extract, dry extract has more than 25% of catechin. so can i assume the ecge content is 25% x 1500mg = 375mg?

No. Follow me here... (Ill add this to the OP, great question AD)

Catechin breaks down to 6 compounds. EGCG, EGC, ECG, EC, GC and C.

EGCG accounts for 50% of the group.

So, your math is a good start... we have 375mg of Catechin. Divide that by 2 and you'll get the EGCG content, so your supplement has 187.5mg of EGCG.

[AD]

Really? That's weird. Can you post a link?

here:
Green tea extract - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No. Follow me here... (Ill add this to the OP, great question AD)

Catechin breaks down to 6 compounds. EGCG, EGC, ECG, EC, GC and C.

EGCG accounts for 50% of the group.

So, your math is a good start... we have 375mg of Catechin. Divide that by 2 and you'll get the EGCG content, so your supplement has 187.5mg of EGCG.

damn. thats pretty low.

[basketballfan22]

here:
Green tea extract - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

damn. thats pretty low.

I was curious about the particular product you found AD, not green tea extract in general. The green tea extract products that I found all have the EGCG content listed, so that's why I asked for a link.

[austinite]

I was curious about the particular product you found AD, not green tea extract in general. The green tea extract products that I found all have the EGCG content listed, so that's why I asked for a link.

He can only buy local where he is. He wont have a link.

[basketballfan22]

He can only buy local where he is. He wont have a link.

Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I am sorry AD; forget about it.

[Brazensol]

Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. Oh yeah, dot com!

[AD]

Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. Oh yeah, dot com!

I'm not from the US, and i hate paying for shipping for things i can get from the store.

[Brazensol]

Are you from the UK or EU? I think Amazon has a similiar setup if you are. Not sure about the shipping though...

[FRDave]

So it's best to take this stack all in one dose around lunch/pre workout? Or should I break it up in 2-3 daily doses (breakfast/lunch/pre-workout)?

I am all about optimal dosage/timing, not convenience...

Thanks in advance,
Dave

[austinite]

So it's best to take this stack all in one dose around lunch/pre workout? Or should I break it up in 2-3 daily doses (breakfast/lunch/pre-workout)?

I am all about optimal dosage/timing, not convenience...

Thanks in advance,
Dave

The most important thing to take pre workout is Synephrine. everything else doesn't matter. Take them whenever.

[phaedo]

How inclined is one to overdose with Chromium? My supplement is dosed to 500 mcg, so I figured of taking 1000 mcg per day.

Did you notice, either in self-experimentation or research, any risks and side effects associated with Chromium overdose?

[austinite]

How inclined is one to overdose with Chromium? My supplement is dosed to 500 mcg, so I figured of taking 1000 mcg per day.

Did you notice, either in self-experimentation or research, any risks and side effects associated with Chromium overdose?

That's too much. Find one at the right dose or use less. You can potentially cause liver damage, stomach discomfort, vomiting, etc...

[AnabolicDoc]

How come you didn't include DNP ? :-) Really great post/thread! Earlier today I took some chromium, egcg and synephrine and you're completely right . . . I look nothing like kelkel. Maybe it takes a day or two, so fingers crossed for tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.