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    Poor circulation and new supplement plan

    I truly appreciate your time if you decide to contribute information to my dilemma.

    Ever since I can remember, I have had terrible circulation to my hands. I have been to many doctors and they have all said there is nothing wrong with me, my heart, or my blood. The doctors even say that heart medication could fix my problem, but "they would not put a perfectly healthy individual on heart medication".

    I am a 22 year old male and have been lifting on/off since 18. I believe this "condition" of mine is detrimental to the development of my forearms. For instance, I can workout biceps and do wrist rollers, but my hands/wrists are still very cold. This leads me to believe that my blood is not delivering nutrients to these areas. I also feel a "lock up" in my forearms when I work them, it feels like the blood is trapped in my forearms yet wont flow into my wrist/hand.

    I have looked into vasodilation products for years, I did a round of Nitrix years ago, MRI no2 (both worked to an extent, but not what I'm looking for + taking all those pills is a nuisance.)

    I am planning a new stack although I am concerned with some overlapping ingredients / blood pressure.

    The stack would be as follows:

    AOR Beets 'N' Berries (Dietary Nitrates) (not sure the amount of nitrates in 1 serving) (currently using)
    Universal Torrent (currently using)
    AOR Ortho-Core (11,000% DV // 647mcg Vitamin B12)(currently using)
    Omega Sports Ultima (125,000% DV // 7500mcg Vitamin B12)
    Hemavol (20,883% DV // 1200mcg Vitamin B12)

    This seems like way too much Vitamin B12 (156,883% DV), I have done my research and read its "water soluble" etc, but this still does not seem like a good idea. I am considering dropping Ultima from the line-up as vasodilation is my main concern, not energy/focus.

    Any recommendations on what to do? I've used Beets 'N' Berries before, so I do not believe nitrates are a problem for me. Although, on both the AOR label and Hemavol label they mention not to use the product with erectile dysfunction medication. I don't take medication for ED, but it seems this two products may not be suitable to use together.

    In all, I am just worrisome when it comes to combining all of these products. Once again, I appreciate all of your time.

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    It's not uncommon and actually pretty normal to have cold hands. When you have discoloration in your hands is when you need to be really concerned.

    There really isn't such a thing as "too much" B12, especially with orals. You're lucky to utilize 15 to 20% of that. Either way, B12 won't hurt you.

    I don't think you have a circulation problem.
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    I appreciate your response. The only discoloration ill have is a bit red/purple sometimes. Any input on the Beets N Berries nitrates / Hemavol stack considering they both say not to mix with ED medication?

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    Sounds like Cyanosis, some sort of oxygen deprivation. I have no input on those compounds other than I don't see how they will help, maybe others will chime in.
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    I suffer a similiar ailment in which my hands have really bad oxygenation. I wouldnt call it a circulatory problem because when I do phys or lift I dont see the hands starved, they are as vaso-dilated so to me that suggests blood is flowing well I imagine my problem has something to do with the haemogoblin in the blood when it reaches my hands. Possibly that could be something you could look into?

    Oxygenation as oppose to circulatory.

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    If your hands weren't receiving enough blood, you wouldn't have them anymore (because the lack of nutrients and oxygen would have killed the tissue).
    Quit worrying about this and put your energy into something productive.

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    If you can feel your pulse at your wrist, you're getting enough blood.

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