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12-24-2013, 08:42 AM #161New Member
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thanks BIB and AUSTINITE.
i got it now. I appreciate all the help amigos.
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12-24-2013, 08:50 AM #162New Member
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thanks bib and austinite.
i got it now,
i appreciate all the help
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12-24-2013, 08:53 AM #163
Get lean Chuvy! Good luck pal.
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12-24-2013, 11:28 AM #164
Austinite, just to let you know by BP went down one day after I stopped taking T3, so now I am back on it at 25mcg ed and I seem to tolerate it better, maybe a ramp up was needed for me, will see. also like you to know this stuff really works, not much change in weight but sure look much leaner, especially in my face, and no change in diet! thanks for all your help.
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12-25-2013, 12:27 PM #166Anabolic Member
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austins opinion: Reverse T3: Side Effects of T3-only (or Why You Need T4 Too)
just read a bunch of that. Mainly, the one point that worries me is it says that taking just t-3 can increase the amount of deodinase (sp? lol) enzyme and that is the enzyme that converts t-4 to t3 and reverse t-3....but ALSO t-3 to the less active t-2. Now some other places have said t-2 is more active on paper but clinically didnt pan out, though dont have the doses. Basically this conversion to t-2 concerns me.
Second it also said t-3 can increase E2 and SHBG...though maybe its the E2 causing the rise in SHBG in which an AI would take care of both. Shortly after starting my t-3 i thought i was getting gyno but wasnt sure because i was on masteron and am not E2 sensitive(can handle a 1000mg of test with no ai, while not terrilbly lean and 500mgs of test super fat). I wasnt sure if it was a true lump or a blind masteron zit as mast has been giving me lots of chest zits, so i waited it out and whatever it was went away.
Anyway, any opinion on the T-2 and an E2, SHBG issue? thanks
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01-13-2014, 05:54 PM #167
^^^^ Interesting read !
Although not easy to read at midnight lol
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01-14-2014, 12:44 AM #168New Member
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You know what's funny is that there is a thermo product by the company GAD called T-300, probably trying to make it sound like T3.
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01-14-2014, 09:26 PM #169
My wife has been taking 60mcg's since December and has seen some pretty insane results. She's been working out and eating right for the past year or so with little results. She decided to give T3 a try and it's really working.
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01-25-2014, 05:51 PM #170
wow, a very good read. Now i feel i can start my program. Thanks
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01-28-2014, 06:18 AM #171Associate Member
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01-28-2014, 07:38 AM #172~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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01-30-2014, 03:21 PM #173New Member
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01-30-2014, 04:16 PM #174
t3 will not hinder lean gains at those testosterone doses.
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02-02-2014, 05:14 PM #175
nice thread
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02-06-2014, 05:38 PM #176
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Nice write up...
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02-07-2014, 05:36 AM #177New Member
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Do you have to be at a particular BF% for T3 to be effective?
Last edited by breakthelines; 02-07-2014 at 05:44 AM.
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02-07-2014, 06:06 PM #179New Member
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02-07-2014, 11:22 PM #181
I'm jumping on t3 first time aust. I will let you know how I feel etc. Just hope the sweating is not horrible. I think in two weeks. Leaning out again. I know i can get lean from diet cardio curious the difference adding t3
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02-08-2014, 08:37 AM #182~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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02-08-2014, 10:04 AM #183
I miss my buddy. Will do. I'm excited to see what happens. Will most likely run 500 a week and be on low dose dbol or drol.
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02-08-2014, 11:52 AM #184Associate Member
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Hey austinite,
Great write up. I started 140mg test x2 (280 week) + 50 mcg T3 ED. Just finished up the first week. Down 4 lbs so far.
Sides so far:
Lethargic every day, gets worse later in the day.
Headache (just started on Day 8)
Slightly elevated BP (140/80)
I am going to stick it out for another week to see if the fatigue and headache goes away but 4 lbs in a week is pretty damn good. I normally average 2 lbs a week (been cutting for past 6 weeks so its not water). Curious if I will maintain this rate for another week. If the sides go away, I plan on sticking it out for a month.
Ill post up progress here after a month if anyone interested.
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02-08-2014, 05:49 PM #185
Watch that BP closely. Personally, I would abort.
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02-08-2014, 09:38 PM #186
You would abort at 140/80?
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Protocol - 140 mg test 2x a week (280 mg test), 50mcg T3 daily
Week 1 - T3 results
Down 3.6 lbs (normal rate with current diet/workout is around 1-2 lbs weekly)
Waist down .5"
Sides:
Elevated BP - 140/80 (back down to 127/77)
Headache - started day 7, went away day 8
Fatigue - finally going away day 8
Strength has been pretty consistent. Been increasing if anything. Never did a test cycle before so maybe making slight gains even at 280mg week?
I plan on sticking it out for another week to see if I can replicate the 3+ lb weight loss this week. Then I know its not a fluke.
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02-09-2014, 10:11 AM #190
Good to you. I doubt the weight loss is a fluke. Some have more to lose then othere. 280 of test is plenty to see or feel strength or just better overall.
and bp fluctuates a lot through out the day so measure more then once to get an accurate reading.
keep up the good work.
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02-09-2014, 11:32 AM #192
If you're able to keep it under control you're fine. Pre-hypertension needs to be monitored very carefully. If you get close to stage-1 hypertension, abort. It can get up there faster than you think. This is why you need to be extra cautious. I usually monitor 6 to 7 times per week. Recently failed to monitor for a week and found myself at stage-2 hypertension. Very dangerous. It was not related to T3, but the point is when you're taking something that may cause issues, the more you can monitor the better.
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