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03-16-2015, 06:34 PM #1Anabolic Member
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03-16-2015, 11:24 PM #2
Overkill on the supplements, you need to worry more about diet. 2500-3500 could be the difference between cutting and dirty bulking.
No need to take extra melatonin, just before bed. Fluctuations in GH throughout the day within the physiological range will make no difference in body composition.
Animal pak/flex and glutamine - basically useless, may be getting a small benefit if one is a multivitamin and your diet sucks.
Arginine - only really good for a pump.
MSM/fish oil/creatine and protein are the only ones of any real use in your whole stack.
BCAA's may have a small benefit but if you're already getting adequate protein the difference probably won't even be noticeable but if you have the money to chuck away they usually taste pretty good and may have some benefits so go ahead.
Diet is your main concern, you're not gaining weight because you aren't making sure you're getting adequate calories to gain weight. Start tracking more vigorously and make sure you're eating more than you're expending. If you're not gaining weight, add more calories. If you're still not gaining weight, add more. Keep adding them until you're gaining as much weight as you'd like.
Hope this helps.
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03-16-2015, 11:48 PM #3
Ya man, khazima is correct. Spend more $$$ on food instead. It's funny how i used to spend so much $$ on supps now i barely buy any and i see results way more than when i was on supps just because i eat clean food.
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03-17-2015, 02:57 AM #4Anabolic Member
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03-17-2015, 05:42 AM #7
It'd be best to make more gains naturally first, learn how to train and eat properly to grow before cycling.
But no, nothing else i'd recommend except maybe a mass gainer if you have so much trouble gaining weight. Helped me plenty when i struggled, so did pasta and mince.
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03-17-2015, 06:19 AM #9
No worries bro.
You were probably gaining weight to quickly. 2-3lb per month, max 4lb per month is a good amount to gain on a bulk.
40/40/20 is for your total macros but it's outdated. The general rules are 1-1.5g protein per lb of bodyweight/LBM if you want to be exact, .4-.6g fat per lb of bodyweight and the rest of your calories from carbs.
I used a TDEE calculator to look at your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) and the estimate is 2900. So to gain weight you should start by eating 3200 IMO. Which leaves your macros as;
Protein - 175g
Fat - 100g
Carbs - 400g
Calories - 3200
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03-17-2015, 06:27 AM #10Anabolic Member
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03-17-2015, 08:44 AM #12
No point getting mass gainer, maltodextrin is almost just sugar. It's expensive for no reason. Better swallow powdered oats. Eat spaghetti, super high in cals compared to other grains and ez to eat.
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03-18-2015, 03:22 AM #18
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03-18-2015, 12:21 PM #19Originally Posted by Khazima
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03-18-2015, 10:42 PM #21Originally Posted by Khazima
But not cheaper than whole food carb source
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