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07-01-2003, 02:16 PM #1
I have yet another pro-hormone question, can someone help me out?
Ok, I am just about to start my first cycle of ph's. Here is what I have: 3 bottles of Ergopharms 1AD 60 caps, 1 bottle of Biotest 4-AD-EC 4.26oz and 1 bottle of Biotest Tribex 500 90 caps.
First, how much more of each do I need?
How should I cycle them? Should I use the 4-ad from the begining and get another bottle. Should I start the 4-ad after the second week, is using only bottle of 4-ad worthless?
If some one could give me an example cycle like
week1.......
week2......
week3....
ect
that would help a lot.
Thanks a lot guys.
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07-01-2003, 05:01 PM #2
Hi. I ran 600 mg. per day of 1-AD and also ran the AST 4-Diol 250 mg. 3 times a day. I gained 9 pounds so far with an intense workout / cardio program.
I'd get one more bottle of 1-AD at least and run it for as long as you can afford without bein insane
Good luck bro.
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07-01-2003, 09:54 PM #3Originally Posted by repeatoffender
I ran 900mg per day. It made my piss burn lol. I didnt like it so i stoped. I still have 3 bottles of 1-AD if you want them hella cheap. As far as PH's go i like impact250. Just my .02 cents
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07-02-2003, 01:11 AM #4
Holy shit juicehoe....thats a lot of 1-ad, when i used it i popped two pills a day and gained ten pounds in a month. By the way, you took my quote....ha
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07-02-2003, 08:17 AM #5Banned
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Originally Posted by GNCGUY83
I mean isn't prostate cancer the number 1 killer of adult men?
Just curious.
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07-02-2003, 08:54 AM #6
maybe it was 600mg then... i forgot its been over a year. As for the quote, its just a good quote ol
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07-02-2003, 10:42 AM #7Originally Posted by Valmont
I have a question too: Do you know that test and amost all anabolics substantially icrease the risk of prostate cancer? If "yes, but I use them anyways," then why are you knocking these guys?
If "yes, but I won't use them"... then WTF are you doing on a anabolic bodybuilding board?
>To answer the orig question, you prolly want:
days 1-40 (that's almost 6wks): 600mg/day 1AD and 600mg/day 4AD
-(so that's 4 bottles of Ergo 1AD and 9 bottles of that 4AD you have... that 4AD is a waste of $ IMO though)
You could also prolly go with this instead:
days 1-40: 600mg/day 1AD (6caps/day) and 750 or 900mg/day 4AD (3caps/day)
-(so that's 4 bottles Ergo 1AD and 3 bottles of 4AD.. I said 750 or 900mg because it's be 750mg/day if you got the 250mg caps from the AST stuff but 900mg/day if you get Ergo or HP 300mg caps)
or do this (best idea in my opinion):
days1-40: 600mg/day 1AD and 600mg/day 4AD if you got Ergo for both and took 6 caps 1AD and 2 caps of 4AD each day... that's a total of 4 bottles 1AD and 2 of 4AD.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/4andro.htmlLast edited by Feli Fly; 07-02-2003 at 10:47 AM.
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07-02-2003, 02:04 PM #8Banned
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Originally Posted by Feli Fly
Actually, prostate cancer is the leading cancer in adult men. Statistcally speaking it will claim 100 american male deaths in the next 24 hours.
Moreover, Androgenic effects are what give you the gains one is looking for. But at what cost?
Obviously you have not noticed this board has alot more information to offer then just anabolic steriod data. I.e diet and workout knowledge. As a matter of fact-genetics plays the largest key in muscular hypertrophic developement-not chemical enhancement.
Good luck in your prohormone cycle.
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07-02-2003, 10:40 PM #9Originally Posted by Valmont
Prostate cancer the leading cancer in adults?... yah way to change the statement from "number 1 killer of adult men" to "leading cancer in adult men" and think no one would catch that one just because you add a stat you found searching on Yahoo...
FYI: Heart disease is by FAR the most common cause of death for anyone esp men...
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_16t1.pdf
Heart problems kill well over 10 times the number of guys prostate cancer does in any age group and often more than all cancers combined.Last edited by Feli Fly; 07-02-2003 at 10:42 PM.
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07-03-2003, 01:03 AM #10
who cares about prostate cancer, dude 600mg of 1-ad and 4-ad gets hella expensive. 300mg of 1-ad and like 700mg of 4-ad should put a good amount of weight on you.
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07-03-2003, 08:32 AM #11Banned
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[QUOTE=GNCGUY83]who cares about prostate cancer
Exactly...lol
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07-03-2003, 08:40 AM #12Banned
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Originally Posted by Feli Fly
Here is a quick lesson on life. Everyones body is completely different so just handing out random advice(expecially on something you have never taken yourself) on what to take and when only makes you look like ..well yourself.-A completely uneducated ass. Now go play outside at the pool untill school starts again.
Peace.
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07-03-2003, 08:45 AM #13Originally Posted by GNCGUY83
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07-03-2003, 01:55 PM #14Originally Posted by Valmont
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07-03-2003, 03:17 PM #15
Prohormones absolutely b.s.??? Yea right bro, im sure almost everyone here would disagree....
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07-03-2003, 03:47 PM #16
I agree with Valmont prohormones are absolute bull shit...You can gain more weight and more muscle by tweaking your diet, or a start would be by even having a diet. Its a huge marketing scheme, they label something with "streriod like results" and dumb people go buy it and eat 1000 cals a day, and waste thier money...Its a joke
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07-03-2003, 03:54 PM #17
You have to find the right products though cold. ive tried a few hormones that are bogus, but if you get on some good shit and do it right they can really put some mass on you.......thats my opinion though, everyone is different.
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07-03-2003, 07:13 PM #18Junior Member
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I used 1AD @ 400mg/ed and 4AD @ 1200mg/ed. I had good results considering I only used it for 2 weeks, which is not a very long period of time when using PHs. I started at 185lbs and when I stoped my weight stablized at 195lbs. Looking back at it I would have to say 1200mg of 4AD was kind of high, but I did make great gains. The weight I could lift went up each time I went to the gym. I had previously been stuck at a weight on several exercises. Nothing horrible happened, I did notice testicular atrophy, water retention, and a decreased sex drive. All of these things went away once I stopped using the PHs, it did take a little while and I used a bottle of 6OXO. I'd suggest 400mg/ed of 1AD and 900mg/ed of 4AD. Feel free to send me a PM if you want some more details.
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07-03-2003, 10:14 PM #19Originally Posted by Valmont
Originally Posted by Valmont
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catproh.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/pierce18.htm
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=134272
Originally Posted by Valmont
Originally Posted by Valmont
Originally Posted by Valmont
Originally Posted by ValmontLast edited by Feli Fly; 07-03-2003 at 10:17 PM.
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07-10-2003, 05:18 PM #20
word
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07-10-2003, 11:58 PM #21
Thats where its at Feli fly.....well said.
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07-12-2003, 10:25 AM #22Banned
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Originally Posted by GNCGUY83
Do you guys shave each others pussies too?
Prohomones rock dude!
I think I will leave you and your boytoy alone now.
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07-12-2003, 12:04 PM #23
Well bro I am doing 400mgs ed of 1ad and 750 mgs of 4ad with good results right now my like is below if you want to see what I have been doing working out and diet wise
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