Low DHEA-S, should I supplement?

[F4iGuy]

Test Name In Range Reference Range
DHEA SULFATE 196 106-464 mcg/dL HQ

Given my test result, should I use a DHEA supplement? If so, how much? 25mg?

[kelkel]

Read this!

Dehydroepiandrosterone - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

How are the rest of your hormones?

[F4iGuy]

Read this!

Dehydroepiandrosterone - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

How are the rest of your hormones?

Let me know your thoughts. Is B12 too high?

Test Description Result Units Ref. Range Flag Status
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Order Name : BASIC METABOLIC
GLUCOSE 87 mg/dL 70-99 Final
BUN 24.0 mg/dL 8.9-20.6 HIGH Final
CREATININE 1.2 mg/dL 0.7-1.3 Final
BN/CR RATIO 20.0 RATIO 5.0-25.0 Final
CALCIUM 9.8 mg/dL 8.4-10.2 Final
SODIUM 140 mmol/L 136-145 Final
POTASSIUM 4.4 mmol/L 3.5-5.1 Final
CHLORIDE 104 mmol/L 98-107 Final
TOTAL CO2 27 mmol/L 22-31 Final
eGFR 73.23 comment >60.00 Final
********eGFR************************************** ***************************
eGFR IS EXPRESSED IN ml/min/1.73 meters squared.
VALUES OF <60 mL/min/1.73 meters squared for three or more months is defined
as CKD.
************************************************** ***************************
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Order Name : DIRECT LDL
DIRECT LDL 115 mg/dl 0-130 Final
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Order Name : LIPID
CHOLESTEROL 173 mg/dL 0-239 Final
TRIGLYCERIDE 59 mg/dL 0-200 Final
HDL CHOL 47 mg/dl 40-60 Final
VLDL,CALC. 12 mg/dL Final
CHOL/HDL 3.7 RATIO Final
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Order Name : HEPATIC FUNC.
T. PROTEIN 7.3 g/dL 6.4-8.3 Final
ALBUMIN 4.6 g/dL 3.5-5.2 Final
GLOBULIN 2.7 g/dL 1.4-4.8 Final
A/G RATIO 1.7 RATIO 0.7-3.6 Final
T. BILIRUBIN 0.6 mg/dL 0.2-1.2 Final
D. BILIRUBIN 0.2 mg/dL 0.0-0.5 Final
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AGE
35 Y 6 M
SEX
M
Test Description Result Units Ref. Range Flag Status
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Order Name : HEPATIC FUNC.
I. BILIRUBIN 0.4 mg/dL 0.2-1.2 Final
ALK.PHOS. 97 U/L 40-150 Final
AST(SGOT) 49 U/L 5-34 HIGH Final
ALT(SGPT) 52 U/L 0-55 Final
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Order Name : IRON
IRON 86.0 ug/dL 65.0-175.0 Final
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Order Name : UIBC
UIBC 268 ug/dL 69-240 HIGH Final
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Order Name : %SAT
%SAT 24 % 20-55 Final
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Order Name : FERRITIN
FERRITIN 126 ng/mL 22-275 Final
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Order Name : TSH
TSH 2.30 uIU/mL 0.35-4.94 Final
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Order Name : FREE T4
FREE T4 1.01 ng/dL 0.70-1.48 Final
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AGE
35 Y 6 M
SEX
M
Test Description Result Units Ref. Range Flag Status
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Order Name : Vit.D 25OH
Vit.D 25OH 73.6 ng/mL 30.0-100.0 Final
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Order Name : B12
B12 834 pg/mL 213-816 HIGH Final
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Order Name : Folate
Folate 11.5 ng/mL 7.0-31.4 Final
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Order Name : Testosterone
Testosterone 364 ng/dL 47-981 Final
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Order Name : Magnesium
Magnesium 2.7 mg/dL 1.6-2.6 HIGH Final
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Order Name : TIBC Calculated
TIBC Calculated 354 250-450 Final
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Order Name : CBC
WBC 4.5 K/MM\S\3 4.0-10.6 Final
RBC 4.73 M/MM\S\3 4.00-5.60 Final
HGB 14.1 g/dL 12.8-17.2 Final
HCT 40.4 % 38.0-50.0 Final
MCV 85.3 fL 81.0-98.0 Final
MCH 29.7 pg 23.0-34.6 Final
MCHC 34.8 g/dL 31.0-37.0 Final
RDW 13.2 % 11.0-15.5 Final
PLT 197 10\S\3/uL 140-440 Final
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AGE
35 Y 6 M
SEX
M
Test Description Result Units Ref. Range Flag Status
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Order Name : CBC
MPV 8.3 fL 7.0-10.0 Final
LYM% 32.2 % 20.0-45.0 Final
MID% 9.0 % 0.0-12.0 Final
GRAN% 58.8 % 50.0-75.0 Final
LYM# 1.4 x10\S\9/L 1.0-4.0 Final
MID# 0.5 x10\S\9/L 0.1-0.8 Final
GRAN# 2.6 x10\S\9/L 1.8-7.0 Final
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Order Name : URINALYSIS
COLOR YELLOW Final
CLARITY CLEAR Final
SPEC.GRAV. 1.025 Final
PH 6.0 Final
PROTEIN NEGATIVE NEG Final
GLUCOSE NEGATIVE NEG Final
KETONES NEGATIVE NEG Final
UROBILINOGEN 0.2 0.2 - 1 Final
BILIRUBIN NEGATIVE NEG Final
BLOOD NEGATIVE NEG Final
LEUKOCYTES NEGATIVE NEG Final
NITRITE NEGATIVE NEG Final
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Order Name : VENIPUNCTURE
VENIPUNCTURE @ VMA Final
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Order Name : HANDLING
HANDLING TO REF.LAB Final
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********** End of Report **********

[kelkel]

I didn't look at every line but,

Perfect Vit D Level! Great cholesterol levels. A good indicator is to divide your triglycerides by your HDL and if the result is 2 or less your risk of cardiac issues are low! Your UIBC and AST are both a little high. Normally AST can be raised just from exercise. Sometimes dramatically so. That said, Iron is mostly stored in your liver and when you combine slightly elevated iron, AST and high B12 it concerns me a bit about your liver.

Are you supplementing B12 or elemental iron?

Yes, your T level stinks. Would be great to see LH/FSH which would help evaluate pituitary function. Prolactin and cortisol as well as these can suppress pituitary function and thus your testosterone level.

[F4iGuy]

Are you supplementing B12 or elemental iron?

-I take one optimum nutrition optimen multi every morning (1/3 suggested serving size). See below for info. Should I stop taking this?



Yes, your T level stinks.

-I'm 35 and took prohormones when I was younger. Ran one cycle of test cyp. 12 weeks with clomid and nolva PCT. Felt recovered but didn't have bloodwork (idiot I know) I actually had this test the day after stopping D-Aspartic Acid and Fenugreek for 6 weeks. Is it possible my free test would be even lower if I didn't use the DAA and Fenugreek? I was surprised by the low T number, I'm stronger than ever, good recovery, and sex life is pretty good.

Would be great to see LH/FSH which would help evaluate pituitary function. Prolactin and cortisol as well as these can suppress pituitary function and thus your testosterone level.

-Any suggestions on how/where to get an order for these tests? I'm not sure I could get the doc. to order them. I don't mind if insurance doesn't cover it.

-Also, when ordering the tests you suggested do I specifically as for LH/FSH Prolactin, and Cortisol or is there other terminology I need to know?

Thanks!

[kelkel]

I can't really see the label. Wouldn't hurt to stop it and retest some items in a month or so. Many states (not all) allow private testing. Take a look at discountedlabs dot com or privatemdlabs dot com. Both of those sites should have a hormone panel which you can also add items to.

Remember, after age 30 or so most men's T levels will start to decline. So many things can influence/impact them. Fenugreek may help your libido a bit and reduce dht but that's about it that I'm aware of. DAA won't hurt you and may actually stimulate LH/FSH a little.