Pre Workout supplements for energy and appetite suppressants

Been outta the game for a few years owing to illness and injuries etc

Got a few stone to drop before I start

Looking for a pre cardio for a stupid boost and appetite suppressants

I've managed to drop a huge amount of weight before naturally but I need help this time owing to time constraints,

Currently using T5 and I've ordered clen for when I start properly, but I guessed the safest bet and the most efficient way, was to ask the experts here

Cheers mucckas

I just started taking C4 Mass by Celucore pre workout. It's got 30grams of Carbs and 5gr of CM. I had been losing my pump mid workout. I just workout with it yesterday and had a crazy good pump going the entire workout

Coffee always works.

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Originally Posted by kelkel

Coffee always works.

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Yep.

You can buy caffeine pills if you like but just a black coffee is good

BTW Clen is a horrible drug and only really shines when your bodyfat is really low.

Thanks for the replies, just need a boost to hit the floor running, never used clen wars horrible about it?

Side effects aren't worth it for me, potential side effects short term are

Muscle cramps
Hypertension (increased blood pressure)
Increased heart rate
Palpitations
Insomnia
Dry mouth
Vomiting
Tremors (shakiness especially marked in hands)
Anxiety
Nervousness/ restlessness
Headaches

As stated it works better at a lower bodyfat and also with a low carb diet. It's not for me any more.

A couple of tablespoons of instant coffee mixed in with my whey and oats does it for me.

I get caffiene pills from Walgreens 100 200mg pills for 10 bucks just because with my schedule a good cup of coffee isn't always possible .

Caffeine and yohimbine is my favourite

Adipex is awesome

I find coffee to be horrible pre workout as it's usually to "heavy" in the stomach.
By "heavy" I mean like any meal take takes some time to digest,
like if I ate hot dogs I probably wouldn't feel good training 1h later, probably still tasting hot dog if I burped.
But in that regard everyone will be different, so whatever works...

I like various caffeine solutions which I add theanine and taurine to,
and my experiments with phenylpiracetam so far leads me to conclude it's an ok preworkout if you have easy access to it.
It seems phenylpiracetam is drastically more powerful with caffeine than without, but I also had no side effects without caffeine.

Ritalin is also okayish. Not much but 5mg with caffeine can be enough.
Ritalin is also drastically altered by caffeine, but side effects are worsened really bad, but when it comes to the gym, those side effects are quite tolerable; heat, sweat and clammy, nervousness, tremor.

With stimulants one always has to be careful and know dose and interactions.
You do not want to unintentionally combine any stimulant with yohimbibe f.ex.
Or combine two stimulants without thinking it through, as sometimes they are additive (1+1=2) or sometimes synergistic (1+1=3)

I really like 100mg caffeine tablets. They don't dry you out like some drinks, are easy on the stomach, and can be taken with just plain water. If your tolerance for caffeine is high, they sell 200mg tabs but those are too much for me. I've been using Jet-Alert tabs and am happy with their quality.

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Coffee always works.

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Pretty much what I ended up taking after getting older

Coffee or just a caffeine pill works just fine, pre-workout powders just cost more money which you could be spending on other things, also found the older I get the rebound and wellness from preworkout takes a lot out of you...

I eat a slice of toasted seeded bread with coconut butter and honey. Seems to work for me.

Pumped raw by musclefesst.com
Bronaid and a monster ultra blue

APS Mesomorph is a strong one.

I like 4gauge, more for the pump and tingle than the caffeine. I don't mind the extra energy, but I really like the pump

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I like 4gauge, more for the pump and tingle than the caffeine. I don't mind the extra energy, but I really like the pump

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I would like to find one with an incredible pump but stimulant/energy free.

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Originally Posted by ALIN

I would like to find one with an incredible pump but stimulant/energy free.

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Check out "Genius Pre" on Amazon. That's what I use at night so it doesn't keep me up afterward. It's my second favorite. No stims. Good pump

best non stimulant self made pre workout PUMP stack

Beet root extract
citrulline
salt
AND a pop tart (yes I said a 'pop tart')
then 10iu of insulin
80g of amleopectin intra workout (EAAs mixed in is a plus)

Bonus-
100mcg igf des bi lateral injection in muscle worked

awesome pump, zero stims

I personally use Purigami Natural Pre-workout Powder for Women and I have seen fantastic results! On days I forget to bring it to gym with me, I can see a difference in the amount of weight I am able to lift and the number of reps I can get through. You can find more reviews on pre-workouts for women on https://www.theolive.com/reviews/pre-workouts-women/

A chronic intake of coffee helps me a lot to improve my work out quality.

Coffee as mentioned. But taper slowly so you wont fatigue and desensitize so fast.

Bump!