Help me choose a preworkout

Hey all,

I've been out of the supplement (and specifically the preworkout supplement) game for a while. Looking for something new and would like to hear your suggestions. I've tried TONS over the years. My most recent was a mixed serving each of Jeckyl and Hyde.

What am I looking for out of a preworkout?

Well, I like the 'focus/clarity/energy' aspect, but not necessarily looking for anything stim heavy. I train in the evening and do enjoy sleeping, so ... yea. I am leaner than I've been in years, so as vain as it might sound, a preworkout that provides an amazing pump/vascularity would be great. Note: I've used L-Citrulline in high dosage along with a standard preworkout, but didn't really notice much of a difference from preworkouts containing it, or the Malate variety. I've also used product like N-VEIN along with preworkout but again, didn't notice anything crazy.

I'm fine with mix-matching different preworkouts for my desired effects. Ideally one that really focuses on pump/vascularity, and another that provides that focus and clarity but hopefully not overly stim-heavy.

Annnnnd GO!!!!

Ephedrine 25mg, 100mg asprin, sugar free monster, and Cialis 5mg

Everything else is snake oil waste of $$

Ephedrine 25mg, 100mg asprin, sugar free monster, and Cialis 5mg

Everything else is snake oil waste of $$

50mg tren suspensión and 30mg Dbol

then for the pump , 10mg cialis, 100mcg IGF, 10iu insulin, along with fast acting carbs and salt

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Originally Posted by 1moreset024

Ephedrine 25mg, 100mg asprin, sugar free monster, and Cialis 5mg

Everything else is snake oil waste of $$

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He trains at night and wants to sleep. A stimulant like Ephedrine typically will interfere with sleep.

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Originally Posted by ALIN

He trains at night and wants to sleep. A stimulant like Ephedrine typically will interfere with sleep.

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agreed.

Honestly, high doses of Arginine is perfect if you are taking pills, or smaller doses if injecting it. Plus it induces resting growth hormone at high doses.

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Originally Posted by ALIN

He trains at night and wants to sleep. A stimulant like Ephedrine typically will interfere with sleep.

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Truth!! I've done the 'make my own concoction' thing years ago. Not really interested tbh. I need quick and easy these days. I know there are decent supps on the market, especially nowadays when more and more companies are listing their ingredients. No more 'proprietary blends'.

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Originally Posted by austinite

agreed.

Honestly, high doses of Arginine is perfect if you are taking pills, or smaller doses if injecting it. Plus it induces resting growth hormone at high doses.

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What kind of dosage are we talking? Also, just out of curiosity - why Arginine instead of Citrulline? I know the latter is a precursor to the former - so just a quicker means?

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Originally Posted by gbrice75

What kind of dosage are we talking? Also, just out of curiosity - why Arginine instead of Citrulline? I know the latter is a precursor to the former - so just a quicker means?

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Citruline is much more effective . the reason why is that most people cannot get adequate levels of Arginine into the blood stream because its destroyed in the digestion process, by an enzyme Arganase. however Citruline is easily digestible and then after digestion it converts to arginine while already in the blood stream

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Originally Posted by ALIN

He trains at night and wants to sleep. A stimulant like Ephedrine typically will interfere with sleep.

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Chase it with 50 mg of atenolol and two advil pmand 40 mg of melatonin:icon_slee

^^If you don't wake up, back the atenolol off to 25mg.

Lol

ManSports is pretty damn good

Olympus Labs Re1gn is pretty good also. They have a bogo deal right now

Over my preworkout thing, in my opinion this is a mental block. Drink some coffee. If you are just chasing a pump then previously stated stacks will work.

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Originally Posted by Clove1234

Over my preworkout thing, in my opinion this is a mental block. Drink some coffee. If you are just chasing a pump then previously stated stacks will work.

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Personally its adrenaline that is key imo.
Music, atmosphere, inspiration, hatred, and anything that makes this mindframe go.

Stuimulants and adrenaline go hand in hand.
This is one of the primary reasons ephedrine is so damn effective. Enough ephedrine will make the hair on your head stand up like a dog in fight or flight mode. It literally makes skeletal muscle more powerful for a time.

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Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Personally its adrenaline that is key imo.
Music, atmosphere, inspiration, hatred, and anything that makes this mindframe go.

Stuimulants and adrenaline go hand in hand.
This is one of the primary reasons ephedrine is so damn effective. Enough ephedrine will make the hair on your head stand up like a dog in fight or flight mode. It literally makes skeletal muscle more powerful for a time.

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convert hatred, into agression, into motivation , into action = no pre workout anything needed

I have no problem killing , but killing the weights and nothing more is the moral choice and obligation I have

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

convert hatred, into agression, into motivation , into action = no pre workout anything needed

I have no problem killing , but killing the weights and nothing more is the moral choice and obligation I have

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Cannot say anymore than this, i look at myself when I’m dragging ass into the gym. Tell myself that this is the fun part of my day; not the work. I constantly text my workout partner during the week saying i cannot weight to crush heavy weights. I think of the co workers that i cant stand when I’m hitting a PR or amrep.

Did i mention booties and yoga pants too?

Glad to see your back at it Gbrice.. I have a pretty good one but it actually might be proprietary to nj.. I’ll message u the name and if u want it and can’t get it, I’ll mail it to ya