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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    The studies have nothing to do with preworkouts and are based off chronically elevated cortisol.

    The OP's question is the equivalent of asking "1000mg of Test isn't doing anything, should I go up to 2000mg or Test or add in other steroids ". The fact that there's a crash in 60 minutes on ECEG+caffeine is indicative of a cortisol problem. That's why your recommendation of a preworkout is stupid, which is also why I originally posted a non stimulant alternative. There are tons of tools outside of stimulant based drugs that can be used.

    I have never once talked up my physique either. You say I have great advice yet make ignorant comments and have quoted my posts in the past telling people not to listen.

    Stop derailing people's threads asking for a picture.Alternatively, you can continue being the comedian in your banana group and see where it gets you.
    Who are you? Asshop? Or windex? Lmao I got confused for a minute there!

    See where it gets me? What does that even mean?

    The thing I just can’t stand about you is how negative your posts always are. I’m not sure that you even see it or notice it at all but everyone else sees it man. It’s bad and it does bring people down. I’ve seen it before. There’s no one right answer for everything yet you always seem to have the one right answer and everyone else is stupid? Well that’s bullshit come on now. Lighten up dude! Smile maybe get laid and you will feel better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Pretty ignorant and arrogant comment. Must be why you could only get to 152 lbs before having to cycle.
    I hate shit like this, particularly here on this forum.

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    He changed his avatar to try an piss me off with the ashop thing.

    I dont plan on retaliating.

    I am going to be the bigger man...



    Someday.


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    this whole thing is so retarded guys and goes against everything that the board was working toward as far as the culture here is concerned...obs it was you the members all gave the credit too and here we are dragging on another thread where you find a common "enemy" and your friends all jump in with no real skin in the game...this is about obs, windex and family guy...lets let this thread die and move on to more productive conversations wile the powers that be look into any complaints ok? please...
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    and to the OP, sorry your thread got derailed...are you still with us or did we scare you away?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    this whole thing is so retarded guys and goes against everything that the board was working toward as far as the culture here is concerned...obs it was you the members all gave the credit too and here we are dragging on another thread where you find a common "enemy" and your friends all jump in with no real skin in the game...this is about obs, windex and family guy...lets let this thread die and move on to more productive conversations wile the powers that be look into any complaints ok? please...
    Windex or any guy with thousands of posts that has never said a kind word to anyone should find the door in my opinion.
    100% negativity that we have fought hard.

    You are right its between him and family guy actually but I am not the only guy sick of his pure negative demeanor.

    My friends are pretty much any supportive person on the board btw including you.

    This site is great for informationbut even more than that the brotherhood. When an iron brother is having a rough go being able to be thete for them when a family member is dying, deathly sick like FG's father, getting a divorce, or even just burnt put and depressed is better than all scientific fact on earth.

    We are bodybuildets and bleed thick blood togeether. People who push like we do are gonna need real support at some point.

    I am done now but come on windex... Remove the stickfrom your ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Windex or any guy with thousands of posts that has never said a kind word to anyone should find the door in my opinion.
    100% negativity that we have fought hard.

    You are right its between him and family guy actually but I am not the only guy sick of his pure negative demeanor.

    My friends are pretty much any supportive person on the board btw including you.

    This site is great for informationbut even more than that the brotherhood. When an iron brother is having a rough go being able to be thete for them when a family member is dying, deathly sick like FG's father, getting a divorce, or even just burnt put and depressed is better than all scientific fact on earth.

    We are bodybuildets and bleed thick blood togeether. People who push like we do are gonna need real support at some point.

    I am done now but come on windex... Remove the stickfrom your ass.
    We bleed thick blood because they won't let us donate

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    and to the OP, sorry your thread got derailed...are you still with us or did we scare you away?...
    Nah i enjoy the drama lol. Been following.

    PS constructive criticism is good. But if someone misses the constructive part it's not good. I am new here so what do I know
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbunyan View Post
    Nah i enjoy the drama lol. Been following.

    PS constructive criticism is good. But if someone misses the constructive part it's not good. I am new here so what do I know
    Cool brother everyone here are actually good people, we just but heads sometimes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    Cool brother everyone here are actually good people, we just but heads sometimes...
    Everbody here running around with tren and superphysiological* levels of test in their blood stream, high E2, low E2, etc., cant see how anyone could get crosswise. :-)

    (* Credit goes to GH for this terminology)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebricklayer View Post
    Everbody here running around with tren and superphysiological* levels of test in their blood stream, high E2, low E2, etc., cant see how anyone could get crosswise. :-)

    (* Credit goes to GH for this terminology)
    funny thing is , naturals have the same issues . only its that they are running around with low androgens levels, adrenal fatigue, and high cortisol levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    Cool brother everyone here are actually good people, we just but heads sometimes...
    Pretty much everyone.
    Septin windex.
    Good people dont post thousands of posts and never so much as say, "Lookin good man" or "Atta boy" etc.

    We may have different definitions of good people though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    funny thing is , naturals have the same issues . only its that they are running around with low androgens levels, adrenal fatigue, and high cortisol levels.
    Yeah thatís me!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    Cool brother everyone here are actually good people, we just but heads sometimes...
    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. LOL


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    Sticks and stones may break my.bones but tren will always consume me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    Sticks and stones may break my.bones but tren will always consume me

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    LMAO!!


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    My pre workout is ephedrine and redbull but I actually have tried the stuff Famguy was talking about. It was good for the bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    funny thing is , naturals have the same issues . only its that they are running around with low androgens levels, adrenal fatigue, and high cortisol levels.
    Fuck I couldn't say this better myself ahahahha

    Being lean while natty AKA 1500 cals a day living on cigs and adderall.. pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbunyan View Post
    I normally take a tab of caffeine and a capsule of ECGC, but usually crash after hour and a half max. Keep adding or upping the dose or anything better out there ?



    Thanks in advance
    I liked the AMP citrate and DMAA based pre workouts when I look for something strong. Problem for me is they last too long, often the entire day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I liked the AMP citrate and DMAA based pre workouts when I look for something strong. Problem for me is they last too long, often the entire day.
    Last too long- how is that possible??


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Last too long- how is that possible??


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    I want something that gives me a kick while in the gym and then wears off. AMP citrate and DMAA keep you amped up 8-12 hours easily. I don't enjoy stimulants so that's far to long for me.
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