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Thread: I got some meat on my arms finally<3

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    Girly log, I got some meat on my arms finally<3

    Heya! There's little info on women and aas, so I'll make a contribution. Disclaimer: I'm not a good example to follow. I don't have a personal trainer qualification and never hired one. I learned anatomy in university, where we had to draw the muscle and skeletal system for art class. And I read about nutrition online, comparing bloggers and scientific research. Also, drafted my training schedules alone, constantly improving it by trial and error.

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-20191129_181321-copy.jpg

    And now I feel like sharing my experience with test e and tren e (first cycle) to give experienced aas users a funny read and less experienced users a what-to-expect insight. It's also good to keep in mind that we have unique bodies and another woman might be affected differently. Anyways, here's my testimonial:

    *a 200mg pin of tren gave me a long-long pip. The cause I attribuited to this is that the muscle was to small to vascularize it and after it I settled for 20-40mg weekly (the other cause could he that my pinning technique sucks but I prefer the muscle explanation)
    *the same large dose of tren resulted in numb arms and high resting heart rate (80-90bpm), problems solved after using a smaller dose
    *even in smaller doses, tren compromised my cardio
    *test e + salty food = best recipe for puffy face. I became mindful of how much salt I consume and I stay hydrated to keep the water retention at a minimum
    *besides aggressiveness I experienced raised anxiety, paranoia, an intense dislike for life and weird af dreams (at some point I dreamt I was frying my cat in a pan, and this is weird because I don't cook)
    *I had anxiety after hitting a nerve and I hit two veins afterwards. Next oil pooled to the knee as I did not pin deep enough. Next I pinned subq, itches to think of it. Stopped, resumed pinning only after I managed my emotions. Not giving the body a regular dose worsened the mood swings. A 0.2 ml subq pin absorbed just fine, a 0.4 ml pin absorbed slower, with a lump (concentration was 250mg/ml).
    *experienced some really elevated moods and euphoria, I found myself looking at non-users and thought "you punny mortals"
    *burned some fat while doing progressive loading which I did not believe possible. Now I'm in love with the idea of recomping. Intermittent fasting is a great tool for this too
    *if you imagine that your heart beats slower, it will do so. My technique for insomnia
    *had a theory that you can do better stretches, as stretching means muscles growing in length, but I could not test it. I felt my muscles tight, experienced cramps often, and I could not stretch as well as I do when I am off-cycle
    *week 1-2: increased libido, alertness, badass recovery, huge apetite, some pimples started to appear and water retention
    *week 2-3: starting shaving my face twice a week (I did this on ocasion before aas too as I had a lot of fluff showing in studio backlight photography). Hair grew faster on cylce (especially on legs), but it didn't become coarse or present in places it wasn't before (I expect it to happen in further cycles)
    *week 4-6: I noticed my voice was rough (the way it is when you have a cold, still girlish), later it went to a lower pitch. I'm really liking this one, sounds a bit more powerful
    *week 7: messy pin schedule starts, psychologically terminated, wrote exes... I felt sorness and I did a deload. My progress was better for it and I resumed progressive loading with more enthusiasm later
    *week 8: some clitoral enlargement visible to me, doesn't look like ambiguous genitalia
    *weeks 9 - 12: back to pinning regularly, determined to squeeze all the gains that can be gained from the cycle. Downed the dose at the end to make a smooth transition from demigod to regular person

    By the end of January or Feb I will get my bloodwork done too. Atm I feel really good.

    I have no siample diet, just ate what I felt like eating. I fasted until noon some days, most of them I ate above maintenance. Main source of protein was diary, supplemented with whey. I threw in some fruits and vegetables for the micros. I tried to keep the carb sources as healthy as possible, but I enjoyed some cheat meals too. The amount of carbs I ate without fat gain was fantastic. Hell, I'm even considering to stay on a dose during holidays just for the food.

    I'm open to questions if there are facts I missed. Of suggestions for improvement, if there are any.

    All in all I used 3.2 ml of test e (250mg/ml) and 3.4 ml of tren e (200mg/ml). I'll update the post with what happens afterwards, so far the androgenic sides are the voice and faster hair growth. I wonder how the voice will subside, or if it will at all.

    My goals were:
    *improving upper body strength for pull-ups and push-ups. My arms went from scrawny to decent. I can do push-ups like mad. Still can't do a goddamn pull-up, but maybe I'll be able to after I get rid of the water retention and some kg of fat (I have 1.69m and 84kg atm, I had 72kg, 24%bf, when I started the cycle, at the end of september)

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-20191122_160111.jpg

    *core strenght for spinning kicks (see the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l702a5sIJM , I can do the first two kicks). Currently I'm not going to a martial class, although I plan to resume. I will give up tren when I do, it doesn't mix with the picture and when I trained alone I took long breaks between kick sets. I'm not sorry that I went with a bodybuilder's stack and not an endurance athlete's stack. What I want requires significant core strenght and I'll do the work on endurance off-cycle.
    *no goals for legs. I'm just so happy with my legs, they just keep growing without having my mind on them

    On my next cycle:
    *I'll learn how to cook meat, dairy products have too much fat
    *Learn to pin with one hands
    *have better-defined goals (measurable and time based)
    *not wear myself down so much in the first weeks and feel overtrained later (this time most of the progress happened weeks 4-6)

    And I must admit that I feel lucky to be part of the comunity, because I found the support that real life lacked. So guys, I'll be bugging you with stupid questions for as long as you'll have me.
    Last edited by sv.elia; 12-04-2019 at 01:22 PM.
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    Sorry I doubted you! Great job and keep going!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Sorry I doubted you! Great job and keep going!
    Will do
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    Heya! There's little info on women and aas, so I'll make a contribution. Disclaimer: I'm not a good example to follow. I don't have a personal trainer qualification and never hired one. I learned anatomy in university, where we had to draw the muscle and skeletal system for art class. And I read about nutrition online, comparing bloggers and scientific research. Also, drafted my training schedules alone, constantly improving it by trial and error.

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    And now I feel like sharing my experience with test e and tren e (first cycle) to give experienced aas users a funny read and less experienced users a what-to-expect insight. It's also good to keep in mind that we have unique bodies and another woman might be affected differently. Anyways, here's my testimonial:

    *a 200mg pin of tren gave me a long-long pip. The cause I attribuited to this is that the muscle was to small to vascularize it and after it I settled for 20-40mg weekly (the other cause could he that my pinning technique sucks but I prefer the muscle explanation)
    *the same large dose of tren resulted in numb arms and high resting heart rate (80-90bpm), problems solved after using a smaller dose
    *even in smaller doses, tren compromised my cardio
    *test e + salty food = best recipe for puffy face. I became mindful of how much salt I consume and I stay hydrated to keep the water retention at a minimum
    *besides aggressiveness I experienced raised anxiety, paranoia, an intense dislike for life and weird af dreams (at some point I dreamt I was frying my cat in a pan, and this is weird because I don't cook)
    *I had anxiety after hitting a nerve and I hit two veins afterwards. Next oil pooled to the knee as I did not pin deep enough. Next I pinned subq, itches to think of it. Stopped, resumed pinning only after I managed my emotions. Not giving the body a regular dose worsened the mood swings. A 0.2 ml subq pin absorbed just fine, a 0.4 ml pin absorbed slower, with a lump (concentration was 250mg/ml).
    *experienced some really elevated moods and euphoria, I found myself looking at non-users and thought "you punny mortals"
    *burned some fat while doing progressive loading which I did not believe possible. Now I'm in love with the idea of recomping. Intermittent fasting is a great tool for this too
    *if you imagine that your heart beats slower, it will do so. My technique for insomnia
    *had a theory that you can do better stretches, as stretching means muscles growing in length, but I could not test it. I felt my muscles tight, experienced cramps often, and I could not stretch as well as I do when I am off-cycle
    *week 1-2: increased libido, alertness, badass recovery, huge apetite, some pimples started to appear and water retention
    *week 2-3: starting shaving my face twice a week (I did this on ocasion before aas too as I had a lot of fluff showing in studio backlight photography). Hair grew faster on cylce (especially on legs), but it didn't become coarse or present in places it wasn't before (I expect it to happen in further cycles)
    *week 4-6: I noticed my voice was rough (the way it is when you have a cold, still girlish), later it went to a lower pitch. I'm really liking this one, sounds a bit more powerful
    *week 7: messy pin schedule starts, psychologically terminated, wrote exes... I felt sorness and I did a deload. My progress was better for it and I resumed progressive loading with more enthusiasm later
    *week 8: some clitoral enlargement visible to me, doesn't look like ambiguous genitalia
    *weeks 9 - 12: back to pinning regularly, determined to squeeze all the gains that can be gained from the cycle. Downed the dose at the end to make a smooth transition from demigod to regular person

    By the end of January or Feb I will get my bloodwork done too. Atm I feel really good.

    I have no siample diet, just ate what I felt like eating. I fasted until noon some days, most of them I ate above maintenance. Main source of protein was diary, supplemented with whey. I threw in some fruits and vegetables for the micros. I tried to keep the carb sources as healthy as possible, but I enjoyed some cheat meals too. The amount of carbs I ate without fat gain was fantastic. Hell, I'm even considering to stay on a dose during holidays just for the food.

    I'm open to questions if there are facts I missed. Of suggestions for improvement, if there are any.

    All in all I used 3.2 ml of test e (250mg/ml) and 3.4 ml of tren e (200mg/ml). I'll update the post with what happens afterwards, so far the androgenic sides are the voice and faster hair growth. I wonder how the voice will subside, or if it will at all.

    My goals were:
    *improving upper body strength for pull-ups and push-ups. My arms went from scrawny to decent. I can do push-ups like mad. Still can't do a goddamn pull-up, but maybe I'll be able to after I get rid of the water retention and some kg of fat (I have 1.69m and 84kg atm, I had 72kg, 24%bf, when I started the cycle, at the end of september)

    Click image for larger version. 

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    *core strenght for spinning kicks (see the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l702a5sIJM , I can do the first two kicks). Currently I'm not going to a martial class, although I plan to resume. I will give up tren when I do, it doesn't mix with the picture and when I trained alone I took long breaks between kick sets. I'm not sorry that I went with a bodybuilder's stack and not an endurance athlete's stack. What I want requires significant core strenght and I'll do the work on endurance off-cycle.
    *no goals for legs. I'm just so happy with my legs, they just keep growing without having my mind on them

    On my next cycle:
    *I'll learn how to cook meat, dairy products have too much fat
    *Learn to pin with one hands
    *have better-defined goals (measurable and time based)
    *not wear myself down so much in the first weeks and feel overtrained later (this time most of the progress happened weeks 4-6)

    And I must admit that I feel lucky to be part of the comunity, because I found the support that real life lacked. So guys, I'll be bugging you with stupid questions for as long as you'll have me.
    An awsome log.
    I too notice when I had smaller muscle size I had more pip.
    Now with bigger muscle size i notice a lot less pip. Now days I get pip if the needle hits a nerve or if I accidentally move the needle around when in my muscle.

    Looking forward to your next cycle.

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    OP, how tall are you? If my math is right, you are around 185 pounds?

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    1.69m, I think that is 5'54. The scale was at the gym, so I have 185 pounds with clothes, food and water retention.

    During my first two weeks I gained close to 13 pounds in water weight. I'm curious too, about my stats. I'm going to buy a fat caliper and do the math later. I'm expecting my bf% to be lower than it was when I started (24%), but maybe that just wishful thinking and I'm a fatass blamin' it on water.

    Of which I'm not rid entirely at the moment, although the sides are starting to subside.

    I have less pimples. I'm also experiencing some withdrawal (brain fog, sad moods), but I don't think it needs a dopamine agonist. I'll just wait it out.
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    On a side note, I'm considering lowering my bf percentage naturally before the next cycle. Twenty-some was fine with me before, but now I feel huuuge af with muscle, fat, water retention and bloat. I'm not going to cut any time soon though, I read gains need to settle. It could also be estrogen rebound so I'll just avoid mirrors and draw conclusions later.
    Last edited by sv.elia; 12-12-2019 at 03:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    On a side note, I'm considering lowering my bf percentage naturally before the next cycle. Twenty-some was fine with me before, but now I feel huuuge af with muscle, fat, water retention and bloat. I'm not going to cut any time soon though, I read gains need to settle. It could also be estrogen rebound so I'll just avoid mirrors and draw conclusions later.
    Not tdying to be inappropriate but women reqire a higher bf % to be healthy.

    The best looking ones in my opinion are 15-30%

    I wouldnt be too worried.
    You look great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Not tdying to be inappropriate but women reqire a higher bf % to be healthy.

    The best looking ones in my opinion are 15-30%

    I wouldnt be too worried.
    You look great.
    You just changed my moodiness to overly grateful.
    Last edited by sv.elia; 01-18-2020 at 08:16 AM. Reason: Forgot a word
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    You just changed my moodiness overly grateful.
    You have no reason to question yourself. Dont quit, but everyone here has a way of never being satisfied with their accomplishments.

    Human trait of the driven individual.
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    So, sorry for being misleading, my bf% went up, lol.

    I have 1.69m, 80kg without water retention, of which 26% bodyfat (meausred via calipers above the hip bone, 17,5mm). At the end of the cycle I had 85kg (5kg being water retention I suppose)
    I started: 72kg, bodyfat 24%.

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-20200118_123210.jpg
    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-20200118_132231.jpg

    I really think my bodyfat went up during the "maintenance" phase and not the cycle per se, because I remained accustomed to eating a lot and after comming off came the holidays.

    The voice went back a bit. It's not like it was at the start, but higher in pitch than it was during the cycle. The hair stopped growing so fast. I don't think I have more than before, maybe some fluff.

    My body now (while really sucking my tummy):

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-20200118_122859.jpg
    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-20200118_133336.jpg

    I don't have pics before the cycle, I do however have some before gym pics with my flat ass. Here's me at 1.69, 58-60kg, lol:

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-screenshot_20200118-140048_photos.jpg
    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-screenshot_20200118-140040_photos.jpg

    From 60kg to 72kg I went natty in a couple of years (~4). From 72kg to 80kg I went on test and tren this autumn-winter. I did it without professional training regarding nutrition, workout or aas, and this is the maddest and greatest thing I ever did alone. If you have money for a personal trainer, by all means take one. I would have if I had the cash.

    My next step is to order some anavar and clen and start a cut. I think I did enough maintenance for now and I'm ready to go in a caloric deficit. I lift as much as I did when I quit the cycle, maybe even added some reps to the same weigths.

    I calculated my TDEE, hopefully right, at 2500kcal maintenance. I intend to cycle carbs in the 1700-2200kcal range for a cut, with a cheat meal (500-1000kcal every week or every two weeks). I'll do this naturally until my order arrives and then go on the following doses:

    Week 1&2
    10mg var daily
    20mcg clen daily
    10 mg test enanthate weekly

    Week 3&4
    10mg var daily
    40mcg clen daily
    10mg test enanthate weekly

    I'll keep track of macros and micros on my app. This is a 2000kcal day:
    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-screenshot_20200118-152012_samsung-health.jpg

    I'm not a huge fan of high protein diets, so I'll keep it like this for a while and change (up the protein intake, lower the carbs) if I see that things are stalling.
    If there are corrections, I'm open to any feedback.

    Thanks people for being close and I promise to stop harpooning quads and pin front and side delts, so I can complain less about hitting nerves on the main forum.
    Last edited by sv.elia; 01-18-2020 at 08:21 AM. Reason: typos, lots of them
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    Sucking in or not your looking good. I would say most men prefer women with a little more meat on them. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephets View Post
    Sucking in or not your looking good. I would say most men prefer women with a little more meat on them. Keep up the good work.
    Thank you so much! Hoping to brag with some 4 visible abs at some point, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    So, sorry for being misleading, my bf% went up, lol.

    I have 1.69m, 80kg without water retention, of which 26% bodyfat (meausred via calipers above the hip bone, 17,5mm). At the end of the cycle I had 85kg (5kg being water retention I suppose)
    I started: 72kg, bodyfat 24%.

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    I really think my bodyfat went up during the "maintenance" phase and not the cycle per se, because I remained accustomed to eating a lot and after comming off came the holidays.

    The voice went back a bit. It's not like it was at the start, but higher in pitch than it was during the cycle. The hair stopped growing so fast. I don't think I have more than before, maybe some fluff.

    My body now (while really sucking my tummy):

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    I don't have pics before the cycle, I do however have some before gym pics with my flat ass. Here's me at 1.69, 58-60kg, lol:

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    From 60kg to 72kg I went natty in a couple of years (~4). From 72kg to 80kg I went on test and tren this autumn-winter. I did it without professional training regarding nutrition, workout or aas, and this is the maddest and greatest thing I ever did alone. If you have money for a personal trainer, by all means take one. I would have if I had the cash.

    My next step is to order some anavar and clen and start a cut. I think I did enough maintenance for now and I'm ready to go in a caloric deficit. I lift as much as I did when I quit the cycle, maybe even added some reps to the same weigths.

    I calculated my TDEE, hopefully right, at 2500kcal maintenance. I intend to cycle carbs in the 1700-2200kcal range for a cut, with a cheat meal (500-1000kcal every week or every two weeks). I'll do this naturally until my order arrives and then go on the following doses:

    Week 1&2
    10mg var daily
    20mcg clen daily
    10 mg test enanthate weekly

    Week 3&4
    10mg var daily
    40mcg clen daily
    10mg test enanthate weekly

    I'll keep track of macros and micros on my app. This is a 2000kcal day:
    Click image for larger version. 

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    I'm not a huge fan of high protein diets, so I'll keep it like this for a while and change (up the protein intake, lower the carbs) if I see that things are stalling.
    If there are corrections, I'm open to any feedback.

    Thanks people for being close and I promise to stop harpooning quads and pin front and side delts, so I can complain less about hitting nerves on the main forum.

    @sv.elia
    First of all, congratulations on your muscle growth. I can tell you added good muscle mass from your bulk.

    Your current planned CUT CYCLE looks good. Give it a try. The clen is known to give people shaking hands. If your hands get way to shaky then you may need to lower your clen. The only thing I would change is inject the Test E every 2 or 3 days (2-3 days per week).

    Also did you know that TEST P and TREN A also works well in a calorie deficiency (cut cycle). That's right works well in a bulk and cut. TREN ACE is one of the top compounds that helps me.

    Another compound that helps alot of people cutt and lean out is YOHIMBE 2.5mg - 20mg per day works very well. Always start at the 2.5mg for the first week.

    I completely feel you when you said you put on more fluff (fat) in the maintenance because you was still eating like you where on your bulk. I myself have done that before. Lessen learned is to always adjust your nutrition according to what cycle (phase) your doing, bulk, maintenance, cut.

    Injetables are great in the upper outer butt cheeks, shoulders, QUADS. Always try to do your injection into a different muscle group then your last injetion.

    Keep up the amazing work. Looking forward to seeing how much more muscle progress you make in this cutt.

    After this cut, what are your plans for your next bulk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leggodess View Post
    @sv.elia
    First of all, congratulations on your muscle growth. I can tell you added good muscle mass from your bulk.

    Your current planned CUT CYCLE looks good. Give it a try. The clen is known to give people shaking hands. If your hands get way to shaky then you may need to lower your clen. The only thing I would change is inject the Test E every 2 or 3 days (2-3 days per week).

    Also did you know that TEST P and TREN A also works well in a calorie deficiency (cut cycle). That's right works well in a bulk and cut. TREN ACE is one of the top compounds that helps me.

    Another compound that helps alot of people cutt and lean out is YOHIMBE 2.5mg - 20mg per day works very well. Always start at the 2.5mg for the first week.

    I completely feel you when you said you put on more fluff (fat) in the maintenance because you was still eating like you where on your bulk. I myself have done that before. Lessen learned is to always adjust your nutrition according to what cycle (phase) your doing, bulk, maintenance, cut.

    Injetables are great in the upper outer butt cheeks, shoulders, QUADS. Always try to do your injection into a different muscle group then your last injetion.

    Keep up the amazing work. Looking forward to seeing how much more muscle progress you make in this cutt.

    After this cut, what are your plans for your next bulk?

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    Thank you so much for the points! I'll split the test dose in more pins to keep my levels stable, and maybe avoid some acnee in the process. I got a lot of slin pins (29ga), I got really angry at myself for cowerding last time, lol, and I intend to pin everything, bis, tris, delt, and see at the end what works best for me.

    I never tried clen before, I heard about the shaky hands side effect, I'm really curious how it will affect me. I'm always willing to change course if things don't go the way I want, like reducing the dose or using something else (I'll research YOHIMBE). I intend to use clen without ketotifen, I hope that's a good choice because I read somewhere it's recommended for longer clen cycles (not my case).

    I didn't use a food scale during my last cycle and maintenance. This time I'm definitely doing it more consciously.

    Aand I'm saving that tren and whatever remains of this testo for a bulk. Just the amount of food you can eat is heart-warming. I know it raises your TDEE and that works great for a cut, but I don't think I can handle tren's psychological sides in a caloric deficit, I'd be way too "Hangry" lol.
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    It finally got to me, time to test how they work. Codes are valid

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-2.jpg
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    I think I dropped a bit of fluff starting without them, the legs seemed a bit thicker before. I also have no belly, but no abs to show either. Let's see how far we get now.

    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3-4.jpg

    I'll drop the cheat meal idea and do instead a maintainance day weekly (2500kcal). I also lowered the carbs and my macros are now 40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fats. I got supplements for potassium, it's the only micro that I can't seem to fill it with food.

    I'm also writing this to say that even a dose as small 10mg gives an enhancement. At least I felt it (as a girl, don't know what it's like for men). I started pinning some time before the order arrived, this time using smaller needles for delts and bis and it gives me 0 anxiety. Thinking back, it's ridiculous to poke quads for the small amounts I'm using. Lol, I owe an apology to the people that tried to talk sense into me and I ignored because I feared change.
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    Looking much better....keep at it.
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    Thank you! Will do!
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    You are really looking fantastic - nice legs!

    Aren’t delt injections the greatest?

    Keep up the amazing work!
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    Please keep us posted on your continued progress.
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    Arms look great and your legs are awesome too

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    Just saw this thread..Congrats on progress thus far!you look great..
    It's all about YOUR goals and obviously you have the drive and discipline to get there!!
    Keep doing what your doing , and for me 50 mg Benadryl kept my Clen results consistent for over 30 days at same dose and helped me sleep as well and imo forget the etched abs, you are plenty lean and hard looking without..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG View Post
    Just saw this thread..Congrats on progress thus far!you look great..
    It's all about YOUR goals and obviously you have the drive and discipline to get there!!
    Keep doing what your doing , and for me 50 mg Benadryl kept my Clen results consistent for over 30 days at same dose and helped me sleep as well and imo forget the etched abs, you are plenty lean and hard looking without..
    Hands off I sawher first!
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    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3

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    Hands off I sawher first!
    I was just trying to give her well deserved compliments..you know I'm a gentleman road..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG View Post
    I was just trying to give her well deserved compliments..you know I'm a gentleman road..
    I was kidding
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    I got some meat on my arms finally&lt;3

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    I was kidding
    So was I lol
    Iam not a gentlemen, but I give credit where it's due!
    Discipline and hard work is admirable..
    One of the reasons I like you..
    That and that southern drawl
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    Quads and calves are looking solid and I do mean SOLID! I'm guessing the kicks are packing more power now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    It finally got to me, time to test how they work. Codes are valid

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    I think I dropped a bit of fluff starting without them, the legs seemed a bit thicker before. I also have no belly, but no abs to show either. Let's see how far we get now.

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    I'll drop the cheat meal idea and do instead a maintainance day weekly (2500kcal). I also lowered the carbs and my macros are now 40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fats. I got supplements for potassium, it's the only micro that I can't seem to fill it with food.

    I'm also writing this to say that even a dose as small 10mg gives an enhancement. At least I felt it (as a girl, don't know what it's like for men). I started pinning some time before the order arrived, this time using smaller needles for delts and bis and it gives me 0 anxiety. Thinking back, it's ridiculous to poke quads for the small amounts I'm using. Lol, I owe an apology to the people that tried to talk sense into me and I ignored because I feared change.
    How is your cut going?
    Looks like your leaning out.
    Keep up the amazing work

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    Grateful for each word of encouragement. It makes a world of difference to me because at the moment I don’t have any fitness enthusiasts in my day to day life and finding this forum was, well, one of my best findings on the internet.

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    You are really looking fantastic - nice legs!

    Aren’t delt injections the greatest?

    Keep up the amazing work!
    Thank you, they are! 0 trouble so far

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    Just found this thread and you have my attention. Extremely interesting. We have a lot of women clients and I love hearing stories like yours.
    Please keep us posted on your continued progress.
    Thanks! Hope it helps: I had in college a transgender classmate, from female to male. As a reference, he used a 10ml bottle of test e (250mg/ml) in 3 months, maybe higher doses in the beginning, without cycling (continuous use). In the first year she was that type you’re asking yourself whether it’s a girl or a boy, she introduced herself as a girl. By the end of the fifth, he had full blown male features, with a beard and 5 o’clock shadow teenage boys would envy. I’d keep any female with goals smaller than competing in bodybuilding on par with men below that range.

    Soon I’ll have two completed cycles, and my bottles of test and tren are more than a half full. At this peace I’ll be able cycle without much trouble for a long while, but in the long run I see my options as the following:

    *keep going, also invest in vocal cord surgery and lasering hair
    *change boats, research what are SARMS and where to get them and maybe jump there
    *quit, admit I had my fair share of cycles and stop using aas

    Personally I’m not at all bothered by the sides. If I put things in the balance, the good exceeds the bad. After exposure to cold I used to be unable to sleep due to pain in the pelvic and femoral bones. Maybe it had something to do with bone density. Anyways, after cycling that problem got so far away I even forgot I had it. I do however fear rejection in social contexts on account of them, but this is more of a mindset issue rather than a steroid issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG View Post
    Just saw this thread..Congrats on progress thus far!you look great..
    It's all about YOUR goals and obviously you have the drive and discipline to get there!!
    Keep doing what your doing , and for me 50 mg Benadryl kept my Clen results consistent for over 30 days at same dose and helped me sleep as well and imo forget the etched abs, you are plenty lean and hard looking without..
    Ty for the tip! I’m researching Benadryl.

    I’ll lean out a bit more and see out of curiosity how far I can get and how long I can maintain it, but I also like that muscly type of built with a healthy bf% (like Kiki Vhyce). Anyways I don't expect etched abs from a single cutting cycle given that I started with a relatively high bf percentage.

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    Quads and calves are looking solid and I do mean SOLID! I'm guessing the kicks are packing more power now?
    Thank you, they are! Time to get some knockout strength in them arms as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Leggodess View Post
    How is your cut going?
    Looks like your leaning out.
    Keep up the amazing work
    Great so far, although I may have to derail things for a week and some days due to work-related travel. I'll try to stay on maintainance during that time. I didn't make up my mind on whether I should discontinue var use during that time or take it with me. Clen I'm certainly not taking with me. That should boost a bit its effectives when I resume afterwards.

    Thank you for asking. And generally for being supportive. You made a point in a previous comment about more muscle progress during a cut and I found that encouraging because I started thinking that by the end I’ll drop some plate numbers, which didn’t happen. I don’t recall where exactly (maybe women’s forum) but I stumbled at some point on your stats regarding lifting numbers and they’re really impressive. Just wanted to say you’re one of the women I look up to.

    My current stats so far:

    1.69m / ~77kg / 23% bf (via calipers, 13-14mm suprailiac)

    Shoulders - 114cm
    Chest - 94cm
    Bi (not flexed) - 32cm
    Waist - 72cm (hoping to tighten this one)
    Hips - 94cm
    Glutes - 105cm
    Quads (mid-thigh) – 59cm
    Calves – 42cm
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    Looking great, keep up the good work!!
    Your too late God, she already responded



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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG View Post
    Your too late God, she already responded



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    Fuck, will beat you to it next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The God Himself View Post
    Fuck, will beat you to it next time!

    “Sometimes too late is just in time.”
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    Damn, dropping the famous quotes on me..
    I secede, you are God, Iam just a mere walking talking ape


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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    I do however fear rejection in social contexts on account of them, but this is more of a mindset issue rather than a steroid issue.
    Didn’t you fear sticking needles in your Delts not too long ago? Look how easy that was!

    If someone doesn’t appreciate you for who you are, it’s their issue and not worth the bother.

    Keep kicking butt! And btw, killer avi, yikes!
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    Happy that your making gains and muscle progress. Many of us ladies believe in you and have faith in you.

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