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01-27-2020, 08:34 PM #81Banned
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Sorry for the intrusion. I am a PT and sub scap is generally never an issue.
Are you guys meaning supraspinatus? That’s the first RC muscle that becomes involved.
BTW, RC issues have a weird pain referral/radiation to the biceps region & rarely is the biceps involved as well. You’ll know you have a potential biceps issue (generally long head) when you curl and your arms aren’t supported (like on preachers). DB work in particular is a bitch.
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01-27-2020, 11:16 PM #82
Feel free to intrude my friend.
I get dry needling (IMS) done on both supraspinatus and supscap. It seems I neglected my neck stiffness that happened sometime in Dec which led to a bunch of things going wrong. Most of which have been relieved since my last visit to my PT but I still have an issue with my right forearm as of now.
My right shoulder feels a bit of tension but only on flyes so I completely avoid that movement now. Im taking Windex's advise and jumping on some BPC at least and possibly Tb500.
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01-30-2020, 11:16 PM #83
Morning weight: 218.2lbs
A few nights in a row now I've missed my last meal of beef and pasta. The decreased workout frequency means less hunger for me and I've been fine with it since its a deload anyways. Tonite was the first time I hit my last meal this week (I trained back today). I plan to take Friday, Sat and Sunday off from the gym and hit it hard on Monday with my new program and stack.
Received my BPC157 in the mail today (really quick). Starting tonite at 250mcg in my shoulder. I will be pinning my shoulder in 2 different spots alternating between one spot in the morning and the other spot before bed. Fixing my shoulder is priority and i'll worry about the other nagging stuff after this, hopefully it works as well as its supposed to. Ofcourse I will be updating my results in here.
I also met my source and picked up my gear for the next 10 weeks. This will be my heaviest cycle to date and to say i'm excited would be an understatement lol. I chose Deca to go alongside my test. It's hard to argue against it as a muscle builder but my joints, in particular my knees have felt dry and almost fragile walking around at 220 (keep in mind i've been 205 for years now).
Again, this is a planned 10 week run alongside a DC program I wrote for myself.
Deca 1000mg
Test 1000mg
Anadrol 700mg (100mg daily)
HGH 4iu AM
Lantus 30iu morning
Humalog pre wokout 10iu
Humalog post workout 10iu
Cialis 10mg PM
Nolva 10mg PM
Health Supps
Upon wakening
Citrus bergamot 1000mg
NAC 1200mg
before meal 1
Apple cider vinegar 2 tbsp
Meal 1
Fish oil high EPA 3grams
Astralagus 3grams
Vitamin C 5grams
Vitamin D3 5000iu
Kirkland Calcium and magnesium supplement
Bed
Melatonin 5mg
Astralagus 3g
Magnesium
Tudca 500mg
I went on amazon and purchased a pretty detailed workout log. It has space for me to input my current measurements with space for another 8 or so weeks of updates, I've never really paid attention to this so it'll just be another way for me to monitor progress. The log itself is so I can ensure progressive overload but I'm sure that was self explanatory. Last blast I didn't use safety equipment like belts and wraps other than on my heavy bench press. This time around I intend on wearing a belt when needed to yield off back pumps (don't want them interfering with my workout) and also compression cuffs by slingshot brand which will be worn on any push day.
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01-30-2020, 11:18 PM #84
My diet will start off with the same 5k base diet that I have been following. My thought process here is that the introduction of insulin at 50 units and anadrol at 100mg daily alone should yield some mass gain so I will add calories from there.
Meal 1, pre workout and post workout consist of a massive shake I make and split into 3. I find it easy to digest and thats really the only reason.
2 bananas
90g oats
120g pure honey
160g cream of rice
60g natural PB
20g chia seeds
30g coconut oil
4 large raw eggs
4 scoops hydro protein
3034 cals, 377 carb, 96 fat, 175 protein. Again, this is split into 3 shakes so 1000 calories each.
Meal 2
7oz chicken thighs
150 grams rice
590 cals, 48 carb, 20 fat, 51 protein
Meal 3
6oz lean ground beef
1/2 cup kirkland organic marinara
100g organic pasta
670 cals, 59 carb, 24 fat, 53 protein
Meal 4
7oz chicken thighs
150 grams rice
590 cals, 48 carb, 20 fat, 51 protein
5038 cals, 559 carbs, 168 fat, 325 protein. This plan probably doesn't look like a lot of food and its not. I'm hungry quite a few times through the day which is a great thing as theres lots of room to increase food and total calories. The only change I will be making is adding a 100g of carb shake intra workout consisting of a combination of juice and gatorade. The second thing will be adding Alaskan wild caught salmon to my chicken thigh meals bringing the meat to 10oz range per each of those meals.
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02-01-2020, 10:36 AM #85
Out of curiosity where did you read the twice a day is more effective? I've only ever run it once a day (250mcg) so I'm curious about running 500 a day. I'm also running it now for the shoulder thing.
That's a killer cycle man, I'm not running a thousand mg of all three things I'm running combined, lol. .... And damn I love Anadrol, but never gone over 75.
How many days a week are you injecting?
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02-01-2020, 12:04 PM #86
Well most of the logs I read about BPC had twice a day injections so I just assumed that was the better route but more importantly, the pain in my shoulder goes from the front delt to the medial so I thought injecting directly into both spots was the best route. Had it been solely in my front delt Im not sure I would have gone the twice a day method and would likely have just done it in the morning when I shoot my GH and be done with it.
I've ran anadrol at 100mg before but I was eating less food. My only concern is that it doesn't zap my hunger but I won't know if I don't try. I've done 50 and 75 quite regularly as it is my oral of choice. I don't get BP issues really at all and from what I can remember I don't get appetite suppression either.
As far as injection schedule goes, I shoot my oils pre workout to keep things easy. With my new routine I will be training 4 days a week and that is partly where I got my dosing from. My test and deca comes in 250mg/ml vials so I decided to do 1cc of each pre workout giving me 1000mg of each per week. I was aiming for 2g plus orals so that worked out perfectly for me.
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02-01-2020, 02:21 PM #87
Interesting, maybe I'll up mine to 500 and give it a try. I'm not sure it's necessary to 'site inject' either BPC or TB500, but I've read it both ways so I guess do what's most convenient. I do it a abdominally.
Best of luck with this run, I'll be reading.
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02-01-2020, 02:34 PM #88
I didn't bother reading too many logs but everything I read pointed to spot injection for BPC. I hope you are right because I was worried about injecting in each area that is in pain lol. I will still keep spot injecting in my shoulder just to be on the safe side but considering I have tennis elbow developing on the same arm and also come bicep tendon tightness on the other arm, I should be able to tell fairly easily if it helps other areas in recovery.
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02-03-2020, 10:56 PM #89
Day 1 of this bulk. Am weigh in: 219.4lbs.
Started the day with 2iu pharm grade GH upon waking. I will be switching to 4iu of generic soon as I am running low.
Followed that up with 30iu of lantus shortly after.
Got 3 of my meals in before training (pretty typical for me).
I always shoot my gear pre workout so 250mg of test and 250mg deca was on the schedule.
Pre workout I took my 100mg of anadrol alongside Redcon's total war.
I am planning to run 10iu of humalog pre workout but decided to go with 5iu and taper up. Intra workout 100g carbs from gatorade and juice.
Post workout 5iu of humalog.
My workout itself went very well. I hadn't lifted heavy or until failure for some time so it was nice. The DC program really showed me that after a max set, my endurance falls off dramatically and the rest pause sets don't help but that was expected, it's been quite some time since i've followed this style of training.
Workout 1A
Flat BB press 10-15
315 x 8,2,2
Seated military press 10-20
135x 7, 3, 1
Close Grip bench press 15-30
225 x 9,4,4
Wide grip lat pull downs 11-15
170x10 200x7
Chest supported T-bar rows 2 straight sets 6-12
2plates x 12, 3plates x 11
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02-04-2020, 11:39 AM #90
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02-04-2020, 06:41 PM #91Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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Still feel the same on Inno MK vs Syn, even with a 5mg dose difference. Maybe you got a weird batch or something ?
I'm pretty excited to try out their Monster-Plex in a few weeks.
I noticed pricing has gone up slightly. I was thinking of just going full zombie apocalypse for Innovagen Primo. It's dosed at 150mg/mL which makes the his price worth it. Buy 100 vials and then not worry for a while.I no longer check my inbox. If you PM me I will not reply.
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02-04-2020, 10:07 PM #92
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02-04-2020, 10:15 PM #93
Bad batch must be the case. I know i'm not a non-responder or something along those lines cause I definitely felt the inno MK.
Whats your experience on Primo? I have yet to use it but every advanced lifter raves about it so I'm seriously considering adding it at some point.
Monster-plex seems very interesting. Please keep us posted!!
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02-04-2020, 11:20 PM #94
Am weigh in: 220.2lbs.
Woke up today feeling tremendously sore. It's been quite some time since I felt this way. Almost felt like a piece of paper that got crumpled up lol. Its really the only way I can explain it, shoulders, chest and upper back so tight that it was hard to stand up right. I had to hang off of a door frame to stretch things out.
Todays workout:
B1- Standing cable curls 11-20 - aim for 8 first set
120 x 11 , 7 , 5
Dumbbell hammer curls 10-30 - aim for 8 first set
40 x 10 , 7 , 3
Leg press calf raise straight set 6-12
**eccentric/lowering portion last 3-5 seconds, you hold the bottom stretched position for 10-20 seconds, then explosively perform the concentric/raising portion.)**
290 x 11
Romanian deadlifts 15-30 - aim for 12 first set
315 x 11 , 6 , 3
Hack squat widow maker
2 plates x 13
That widow maker took the life out of me. I went way too heavy, my eighth rep felt really hard and I was just about at failure at this point so although I should have done a lighter weight, I still hit the minimum rep range of 12 but I won't be moving up in weight until I hit 20 reps.
I kept that rep ranges in for this post. I didn't include them on my last workout post so I'll explain how it works for anyone not familiar. When it says "11-20" this means that after 2 rest paused sets (15 second breaks) I must do at least 11 reps to do the same weight next week, if i fail I move down in weight. To move up in weight, I must hit at least 20 reps.
Quads, back and calves are done as straight sets for safety concerns.
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02-05-2020, 05:34 AM #95
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02-05-2020, 08:56 AM #96
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02-05-2020, 02:50 PM #97Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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If I could only use one compound with Testosterone for the rest of my life it would be Primobolan . I get my HGH right off the shelf at Shopper's. I would trade the HGH script in a heart beat for Primo if it could be scripted in Canada
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02-05-2020, 03:45 PM #98
If I wasn't already convinced, I am now.
I will most likely run it during my contest prep. I have been hesitant just because of the price and the fact that people regularly talk about it being faked but lately I have heard good things about syn and inno's primo so I think it's time.
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02-05-2020, 05:46 PM #99
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02-06-2020, 11:26 PM #100
Am weight: 224.2lbs
Im up 5lbs since starting this blast. No changes in diet other than intra workout shake so the weight gain is largely due to the insulin use. Its too early for the anadrol to be having much of an effect either.
A2-
Smith machine incline press 10-15 - aim for 8 first set
3 plates 11 x 3 x 4
Smith machine single arm neutral grip shoulder press 10-20 - aim for 8 first set (thanks to kel for this recommendation)
Didn’t go higher than 10s a side due to discomfort
DB skull crushers 15-30 - aim for 12 first set
50 x 10 , 4 , 4
Hammer strength neutral grip lat pull downs 11-15 - aim for 8 first set
2 plates and 25s x 9 , 4 , 3
Barbell rows 2 straight sets 6-12
135 x 8 135 x 10
This exercise didn’t feel comfortable due to shoulder tightness so I didn’t bother pushing it
Pretty intense workout though I'm trying not to push things too much yet due to my shoulder. I feel it slowly getting better so I'd rather not risk anything.
The first couple workouts I had skipped on cardio but I added it in today just at 15 mins. I plan to do 15 mins post workout on A1 and A2 so no cardio after any leg training as well as 30 minutes fasted on one of my rest days which will be Saturdays.Last edited by Livinlean; 02-07-2020 at 11:35 AM. Reason: Forgot to add cardio portion
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02-08-2020, 12:01 PM #101
(Friday) AM weight: 225.2lbs.
Food has been a bit tougher to get down. This happens to me at the start of a cycle where I almost feel as if I am getting sick. I think the only thing holding me back from getting sick is the fact I am taking down 10g of vitamin C. Or maybe I'm not getting sick at all and the 100mg of anadrol is messing with me. Let's see how things play out.
B2-
Preacher curls 11-20 - aim for 8 first set
35 x 10 , 5 , 5
Reverse grip cable curls 10-30 - aim for 8 first set
Didn’t go heavy (tennis elbow)
Seated calf raise straight set 6-12
**eccentric/lowering portion last 3-5 seconds, you hold the bottom stretched position for 10-20 seconds, then explosively perform the concentric/raising portion.)**
300 x 9
Leg curl machine 15-30 - aim for 12 first set
130 x 10 , 5 , 5
Front squat 2 straight sets 6-12 reps
275 x 10
After I unloaded the bar and started doing quad ext, I realized I was supposed to do 2 sets here. Screwed that up.
Leg ext 15 - 30
120 x 15 , 8 , 9
I've never been huge on doing squats at the end of my workout but these felt good. I wasn't able to go very heavy but it had the same taxing effect on me other than on my lower back. I actually quite enjoyed it and look forward to getting that 275 number up real quick.
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02-08-2020, 05:27 PM #102
AM weigh in: 225.6lbs
Woke up late today and just got back from my physio appointment. Today's isn't going to be a good deal for meals considering I just had my first meal and I have about 6 hours until I go to bed. Oh well, it is what it is.
Physio went well and there is significant improvement week over week. Largely in part to the fact that I am not directly hitting shoulders and when I am, I am disengaging my rotator. If I feel any strain, I immediately try to find another exercise to do.
Also this 4 day a week routine is really nice. The workouts are very extreme so I am left sore for days but there is ample recovery time due to 3 rest days. This leaves me more time to worry about business and less about the gym.
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02-08-2020, 09:06 PM #103
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02-08-2020, 09:26 PM #104
I use a cross grip like this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I5GaxSYLCSc
Awkward, but once you get in the groove, you'll move similar weight as you would with a tradition wrist-bent-back-painfully kinda of grip
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02-08-2020, 11:08 PM #105
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I had the exact same mindset. Never touched Primo because of so many fake gear horror stories. With its price I didn't find risk was worth reward.
Started using it last year after finding out I had osteopenia. Saw some studies showing Primo was used as an adjunct to medical intervention in treating osteoporosis in Women.
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02-16-2020, 01:02 PM #107
The past week or so has been pretty tough to get my meals in. Business is very busy so it's hard to justify spending the time it takes to eat. Also my shoulder is recovering but as we go through therapy, we are seeing that the issue is much bigger than initially expected. Bicep tendon issues are almost gone but I also have rotator cuff issues. I have held off from any shoulder exercises for the time being and will do so until I get better. I am able to bench 315 with zero discomfort what so ever so the rotator issues are not impacting my workouts in a bad way.
The past week I have had my weight fluctuate between 221-225. Yes I have missed a meal here and there but I have not ate less than 4500 calories any of those days. Considering I am on insulin and 100mg anadrol , I expected more. I may revamp things here a bit and take my insulin dose way down with the intention of adding it later on. I am thinking my insulin sensitivity may be the issue here. I may possibly drop my lantus and add fasted cardio while keeping humalog to pre/post workout only. Since it is already hard to get my meals in, it may be a good idea to focus on insulin sensitivity here while we wait for the Test and Deca to kick in.
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02-16-2020, 02:47 PM #108
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02-16-2020, 03:03 PM #109
MK doesn't seem to make me hungry, but I feel like I eat at the F'ing time, so maybe I don't notice. One thing that's helped me is carrying around ready to eat foods like homemade beef jerky, and homemade meal replacement bars. But I've also eaten cold chicken and rice more times than I care to admit, as have most of us I imagine.
You're lucky your rotator cuff stuff hasn't impacted your bench work... Shoulders can be finicky that way.
Keep up the hard work!
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02-16-2020, 03:10 PM #110
It's not even a hunger issue. I am hungry about 2 hours after each meal but the way that my business has been, it is extremely hard for me to justify taking time to eat. My business is extremely busy up until about June so it's even harder to take time away knowing that my window of opportunity is half the year.
I love adding MK for hunger. Hunger and sleep are the reasons I like to use it. I can't sleep more than 7-8 hours without it.
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02-16-2020, 03:15 PM #111
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02-16-2020, 03:17 PM #112
My go to has been shakes. Massive homemade weight gainers essentially.
I was speaking to my PT about bench work and we both agreed that the fact I warm up by using my massage gun (hypervolt) on my chest is why I am able to bench without discomfort. I focus on stimulating the bottom portion of my chest away from my shoulders but I do also get the upper chest going. Because of the massage gun warm up, I am able to do less aggressive warm up sets thus putting less toll on my shoulders and preserving energy for the heavy lifts.
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02-17-2020, 04:46 PM #113
I should try a massage gun, you're the third or fourth person to mention it, but I've never thought of using one on my chest to help my shoulder.
I totally know what you mean, by the time I feel warmed up, my shoulder is already irritated. Then I still have my workout to get through.... Like I said, shoulders are finicky little bitches.
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It didn't click with me at first but I noticed I cut my nails a lot more often since adding MK. Call me crazy but I swear They grow faster.
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02-19-2020, 01:47 PM #117
Last night I came down with a pretty decent fever. Massive headache along with it and i just felt like death. I ended up taking 4g absorbic acid (vitamin c) and 10,000iu of Vitamin D and felt significantly better this morning but I did have to constantly wake up to have to shit (maybe 4-5 times). Normally 10-20g vitamin C is my go to and I swear its like i shit out whatever it wrong with me but I read about vitamin D in the 20-30,000iu range just for a couple days, dose was way higher than anything I ever tried so I decided to go with 10-15k iu range instead. Last night I felt worse than I have in years so I will report back with how this works.
I wonder if the high doses of this cycle have given my body a toxic overload if thats a thing. I just haven't felt normal for a week or so. Anadrol will now be dropped to 50mg... I'm not eating enough food to warranty 100mg anyways so I may as well save that for later on.
No intention of lowering my test + deca dose, if anything I will raise it or add something like EQ but first I've got to get myself to 100% here. No point doing crazy shit unless my diet and recovery are at 100%... If I can't eat my meals or lift heavy shit then the purpose of this cycle is defeated.
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02-19-2020, 09:09 PM #118
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02-19-2020, 09:13 PM #119
Whenever I get sick on cycle I start thinking like that, but it's always just a cold or whatever....
Love Anadrol , never ran more than 75mg.
Hope you feel better soon!
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