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    Bumping up calories a bit as of tomorrow. Based off my PM weight it looks like I will be down weight tomorrow and considering I've followed my current plan for a week, its time to make a change anyways. I had a feeling my metabolism was revving quite high considering I maintained 217 all while having cheat meals Friday, Saturday and Sunday... Nothing crazy but at least 6-800 calories above my normal intake each of those days. Here's my new plan as of tomorrow, small tweaks yielded a 500 calorie jump. I just got my digestion locked down (or hope so) so I was refraining from making any major changes. Oh yea, and adding 25mg injectable Dbol pre workout starting tomorrow!

    30-60mins pre cardio 3.5iu pharm HGH

    Fasted cardio days (As of May 4):
    30-60mins pre cardio 3.5iu pharm HGH

    ~8am: 30iu Lantus
    Meal 1: 9am
    3 Large eggs
    2 slices high fibre white bread
    1/2 avocado
    + Shake:
    1 scoop isolate protein
    100g banana
    20g honey
    832 cals, 87 carb, 29 fat, 57 protein

    Meal 2: noon
    8oz chicken
    200g white rice
    1/2 cup beans
    2 tbsp chipotle mayo
    2 tbsp sour cream
    812 cals, 87 carb, 21 fat, 66 protein

    Meal 3: 3pm
    7oz chicken thighs
    250g white rice
    1 tbsp coconut oil
    1 cup mixed veggies (bok choy, broccoli, cauliflower)
    10oz organic berry juice
    845 cals, 100 carb, 28 fat, 47 protein

    ~15mins pre workout 15iu humalog

    Intra workout shake:
    1 cup pure pomegranate juice
    2 scoops carb powder (cluster bomb)
    30g maltodextrin
    30g dextrose
    5g Leucine, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine
    570 cals, 143 carb, 0 fat, 1 protein

    ~Immediately post workout 20iu Humalog

    Meal 4: 6pm (post workout shake + cereal)
    2 cups egg whites
    1 cup blueberries
    1 cup oats
    20g honey
    1.5 cups crave cereal
    1012 cals, 150 carb, 13 fat, 73 protein

    Meal 5: 7pm
    7oz chicken thighs
    250g white rice
    1 tbsp coconut oil
    1 cup mixed veggies (bok choy, broccoli, cauliflower)
    762 cals, 80 carb, 28 fat, 47 protein

    Meal 6: 9pm
    2 scoops protein
    1 cup oats
    1 tbsp PB
    689 cals, 66 carb, 15 fat, 70 protein
    5522 cals, 713 carb, 134 fat, 361 protein, 55 fibre

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    Am weight: 216.8lb so slightly down. I'm glad I took the time to make adjustments yesterday so I'm not scrambling now trying to figure out what to do.

    I forgot to mention the strength increase since adding insulin . The glycogen must be making a huge difference, I look very round but the strength is insane. Last week I got 275 x 5 on flat bench. I was very impressive. Yesterday I tried the same weight, got 10 reps very easy. Attempted 315 and got 4... I would have got 2 more if I had a spotter. The rotator feels recovered in all movements other than shoulders but I will find out in a couple days how it holds up on DB shoulder press and barbell military as those have been my hardest movements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I miss them too man. I've been doing partial side raises with a slight bend and they seem to help with the pain quite a bit.

    Currently looking on the market for a smith machine to add to my home gym. Only problem is that I don't want a cheapo unit and am either waiting for a smith+squat rack combo so I can replace my current squat rack or a commercial smith machine. I would be doing that exercise you recommended every shoulder day if I had a smith.

    There's a current thread on here about home gyms. I've trained at home for 15 years now only going to a commercial gym maybe 5 times in that time span. If you have the right equipment at home you'll avoid gyms like the plague.

    I highly recommend Body Solid brand for a smith machine. Guaranteed for life and replacement parts are free if you're the original owner. I just had to replace a part on my bench and did not realize it was free as I've had it for 15 years. With mine you can squat on the smith or outside it. It also has a selectorized weight stack (pretty heavy) that you can also hang more weight on. High and low pulleys as well. Great machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    There's a current thread on here about home gyms. I've trained at home for 15 years now only going to a commercial gym maybe 5 times in that time span. If you have the right equipment at home you'll avoid gyms like the plague.

    I highly recommend Body Solid brand for a smith machine. Guaranteed for life and replacement parts are free if you're the original owner. I just had to replace a part on my bench and did not realize it was free as I've had it for 15 years. With mine you can squat on the smith or outside it. It also has a selectorized weight stack (pretty heavy) that you can also hang more weight on. High and low pulleys as well. Great machine.
    Oh wow, you listed what I am looking for. I don't need the weight stack part (I already have a function trainer) but a quick google search found me the unit I need. Body-Solid Series 7 Smith Machine GS348Q. Now I just need to find someone who has it in stock which wont be easy but I'm also not in a huge hurry... I can do without a smith for now.

    I'll still keep a gym membership for the odd time I want to train with a buddy but for the most part, I will be training at home going forward. Also will likely be training clients out of this gym once it is complete as I do have a good amount of my local online client base looking for in person training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Oh wow, you listed what I am looking for. I don't need the weight stack part (I already have a function trainer) but a quick google search found me the unit I need. Body-Solid Series 7 Smith Machine GS348Q. Now I just need to find someone who has it in stock which wont be easy but I'm also not in a huge hurry... I can do without a smith for now.

    I'll still keep a gym membership for the odd time I want to train with a buddy but for the most part, I will be training at home going forward. Also will likely be training clients out of this gym once it is complete as I do have a good amount of my local online client base looking for in person training.
    Nice. Now start keeping your eye on Craigs List and local neighborhood group social media sites as well. You can find some great deals that way. I'd highly suggest a vertical leg press if you can find one as well. Love mine. A 45 sled would be nice but you need to load literally twice the weight and it takes up twice the space as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Nice. Now start keeping your eye on Craigs List and local neighborhood group social media sites as well. You can find some great deals that way. I'd highly suggest a vertical leg press if you can find one as well. Love mine. A 45 sled would be nice but you need to load literally twice the weight and it takes up twice the space as well.
    I thought about a vertical leg press but instead went with a regular leg press. It's a commercial unit coming from china set to arrive on May 20th. 45 degree unit. I also have a hack squat and sissy squat so leg days are pretty damn brutal here.

    The big thing I need to add is some sort of lat pull down. Im being extra picky on this one and looking for a stand alone commercial unit.

    I literally go on craigslist and facebook marketplace multiple times a day haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I thought about a vertical leg press but instead went with a regular leg press. It's a commercial unit coming from china set to arrive on May 20th. 45 degree unit. I also have a hack squat and sissy squat so leg days are pretty damn brutal here.

    The big thing I need to add is some sort of lat pull down. Im being extra picky on this one and looking for a stand alone commercial unit.

    I literally go on craigslist and facebook marketplace multiple times a day haha

    Nice. I just didn't want to have to load all the damn plates and take up the extra room in my basement. Post a pic when you get it! Re lat pull down, Just throw in the $$ and get the Body Solid smith with the high and low pulley. You won't regret it at all. By the time you buy a stand alone unit it may equal out anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Nice. I just didn't want to have to load all the damn plates and take up the extra room in my basement. Post a pic when you get it! Re lat pull down, Just throw in the $$ and get the Body Solid smith with the high and low pulley. You won't regret it at all. By the time you buy a stand alone unit it may equal out anyway?
    So heres my problem with the high pulley, what are you using to keep you in place? I currently have a high pulley system already but I can't do a lat pulldown because it lifts me off the bench. I haven't been able to find a bench that would lock my legs in place so I don't go flying up... Do you have one of those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    So heres my problem with the high pulley, what are you using to keep you in place? I currently have a high pulley system already but I can't do a lat pulldown because it lifts me off the bench. I haven't been able to find a bench that would lock my legs in place so I don't go flying up... Do you have one of those?

    Innovation brother! I lower the bar down to just a few inches over the top of the bench and load the bar up. Slide in with your legs under the bar and it holds you down perfectly. I can take a pic later if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Innovation brother! I lower the bar down to just a few inches over the top of the bench and load the bar up. Slide in with your legs under the bar and it holds you down perfectly. I can take a pic later if you like.
    Genius. I tried everything except that lol.

    I actually came across a sweet deal on a commercial unit on craigslist. Same brand as my functional trainer so I know its a quality unit. Going to go check it out tomorrow but I'm definitely not as desperate for one now after your recommendation. Appreciate it brother!

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    So because my weight was stalling at 217, I decided to bump my lantus to 50iu. Most consider 50 to be the starting point anyways but I just wanted to be safe. I also had to increase my calories to 6000.

    Wednesday 216.4
    Thursday 218.4
    Friday 219.4
    Saturday 221.4

    Weight is now progressing back up. I feel because I have cardio added, it is harder to gain weight which is what warranted the lantus increase. I am only 4lbs away from my goal of 225lb lean and I am 2 weeks in (I gave myself a 6 week timeline). Since I only have a few more days worth of lantus left if dosed at 50iu, I will run it until I run out. I will then use humalog to maintain whatever weight I am... The plan was also to lean out and get insulin sensitivity back but I don't think thats an issue at all because I am incredibly lean right now. I saw my prep coach a couple days ago and he couldn't believe his eyes. He is going to be trying the protocol the exact way I did it in a few weeks time he says. This protocol is no means my own, I took a template of Milos' and tweaked it to my liking. I also didn't see lantus on the plan he wrote so I added that in as opposed to more shots of humalog.

    After reading quite a bit online, I came to realize that lantus is great for users who are already lean but also have fast metabolisms. Last time I was a bit on the chunkier side so my results were not as drastic. I should also add that having muscles full of glycogen has really helped my strength and endurance during workouts. That is definitely my favourite part of this all as it does make training that much enjoyable if you can keep going and your body just doesn't want to stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Genius. I tried everything except that lol.

    I actually came across a sweet deal on a commercial unit on craigslist. Same brand as my functional trainer so I know its a quality unit. Going to go check it out tomorrow but I'm definitely not as desperate for one now after your recommendation. Appreciate it brother!
    Back day yesterday so here it is:

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    Have you tried DHB? My rep carries Pareto now and saw. It's actually quite affordable. I think I'd like to try that at 350-500mg/week.
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    No sir I have not. It's been on my wish list but it seems like my local source no longer has that or monsterplex.

    I've been on injectable dbol for a week now and it seems to be zapping my hunger even tho I was hoping the injectable version would not... Even at 25mg. Just ordered myself some super drol alongside some more GH. I plan on adding another 5iu of generics to my already 2.5iu of pharm grade. Considering I was and am close to hiring a coach, I may as well try out the things I've seen on some of their plans lol.


    AM weight: 221.4lb

    Still hovering around 222 and man is it hard getting 6k calories in. I will throw in a cheat here and there to bump it up but I'm trying not to resort to that as I do want to focus on digestion as well. I have been able to keep my waist tight which I did not think would be possible with this volume of food. 300g of rice with 7oz meat catches up to you...
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    Have you tried Sushi rice ? I can eat a lot more sushi rice compared to normal white/jasmin/basmati rice.

    It's the Lundberg brand - only problem is $8/bag here in Ontario.

    Are you doing any dairy right now ?
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    I wasn't the biggest fan of the Lundberg brand. I cooked it the same way I cook regular sushi rice but I think that may have not been the best way to do so as it did not turn out as great as bodybuilders on youtube make it out to be.

    Today I was able to get the 300g down easier. I prefer white basmati rice but sometimes will use a sushi rice I buy from T&T.

    Can not do dairy due to lactose intolerance. Last time I added ice cream to hit 7k calories but I am avoiding anything that may cause indigestion. I'm resorting to pure fruit juices for extra carbs and will soon start ramping up my honey intake if necessary. I probably sound so picky but it sucks having all these intolerances and digestive issues. My specialist diagnosed me with this disease that says I'm allergic to protein... Another specialist says I should avoid chicken & rice as I have intolerances to both according to the test I got done. Of course, we know in Canada our allergy tests aren't the most reliable so I've just been doing my thing and listening to my body and have noticed as long as I avoid processed foods (possibly vegetable oil?) and dairy (lactose), I seem to be fine for the most part.

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    I cut out vegetable oils forever ago and it was huge - cooking most with grass fed butter or coconut oil. I rarely eat dairy as well.

    I'm going to give DHB a try and see what's what
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    Monday May 11 221.4
    Tuesday 222.4
    Wednesday 223.2
    Thursday 225.6

    My goal of 225 lean has been reached. 15.2 lbs in 18 days. Still maintaining abs and good control of my stomach area.

    Today was my last shot of lantus as well as I just ran out. Now I will be working on maintaining this weight with my 6K calorie diet. I've only been on tren A for a week and half or so and I know that will lean me out and have an aesthetic effect. At this weight I do seem to huff and puff so I need to get my body used to this new weight before I try another bulk. Don't get me wrong, I still expect to grow with my current cycle (750 test, 900 EQ, 300mg Tren A, 50mcg T3) but I will not be pushing lantus and GH for the time being. I still intend on using humalog pre and post workout but I will back off if I feel my body is taking a turn AKA losing insulin sensitivity.

    Yesterday's chest workout was insane. I was able to bench 315 for 9 reps. I should be back to my lifts of 315 x 12 and 365 x 5 in no time. I do not intend on trying 365 until I can hit 315 for 12-14 reps... Gotta be safe. Don't want to risk things even tho it's been almost 6 months since my partial tear of my rotator.

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    Am weight: 227.4lb

    Yesterday was my last day on lantus so it will be interesting to see what happens to my weight. I am still on injectable dbol at 25mg pre workout for a few more days so I don't expect too much of a weight drop until at least dropping the dbol. Calories have been bumped slightly to 6200 due to feeling hungry after meal 1 so I just added a bit more carbs to that meal.

    After reading over the first page of this log, I now realize I am very close in strength and weight to my all time PRs. I am only 2lbs away from my heaviest weigh in. For strength logs, I am playing it safe and going with higher reps for now but once my body gets used to this weights (don't want to risk ligaments & tendons) I will start pushing things. Once I start pushing things proper workout logs will come into the mix and will be posted in here... For now I am only logging a single exercise per workout to help ensure progressive overload but not cause any unneeded pressure to lift more and more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Monday May 11 221.4
    Tuesday 222.4
    Wednesday 223.2
    Thursday 225.6

    My goal of 225 lean has been reached. 15.2 lbs in 18 days. Still maintaining abs and good control of my stomach area.

    Today was my last shot of lantus as well as I just ran out. Now I will be working on maintaining this weight with my 6K calorie diet. I've only been on tren A for a week and half or so and I know that will lean me out and have an aesthetic effect. At this weight I do seem to huff and puff so I need to get my body used to this new weight before I try another bulk. Don't get me wrong, I still expect to grow with my current cycle (750 test, 900 EQ, 300mg Tren A, 50mcg T3) but I will not be pushing lantus and GH for the time being. I still intend on using humalog pre and post workout but I will back off if I feel my body is taking a turn AKA losing insulin sensitivity.

    Yesterday's chest workout was insane. I was able to bench 315 for 9 reps. I should be back to my lifts of 315 x 12 and 365 x 5 in no time. I do not intend on trying 365 until I can hit 315 for 12-14 reps... Gotta be safe. Don't want to risk things even tho it's been almost 6 months since my partial tear of my rotator.
    Slow and steady - smart!

    Do you ever do stutter reps or train with a partner ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Slow and steady - smart!

    Do you ever do stutter reps or train with a partner ?
    I am slowly going to start training with more volume now. My strength has come back and I believe I can push further but in an attempt to avoid injury I will add more volume. Plus, I haven't done volume on heavy sets in quite some time.

    Never heard of stutter reps before until I just googled them. Have you had any luck with them? My training methods are for the most part adopted from mountain and DC style training.

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    Friday 227.4
    Saturday 226.2
    Sunday 224.2

    Since dropping the lantus my hunger has been down quite a bit. I like forcing food but only to an extent so I am now working on finding a new caloric threshold to hit. I aimed for 5600 today but had issues getting it down. Looks like I will be getting in about 5300 which is a 900 calorie drop. Normally I don't snack but I am hoping to add a chocolate bar before bed which would put me at 5500 cals.

    Got a little fluffy so the calorie drop will help in that regard. Just a few days off of lantus and my muscles are much much harder. I will be adding more volume to my workouts in an attempt to burn more calories. Diet will be closely monitored daily and I will add calories if I am hungry but I doubt it will be necessary until lantus is added back in.

    I am well on my way to my goal. If i do a contest prep this fall, it would be about 27 weeks from now. So 16 weeks for prep, gives me 11 weeks. I would like to hit another 2-3 week bulk phase in there before taking 4-5 weeks off.

    May 15 - June 6 (3 weeks) : No Lantus. Humalog pre and post. Not pushing food while maintaining 220lbs. Push food if weight drops below 220.
    June 6 - June 27 (3 weeks) : Add lantus. Humalog pre and post increasing if needed. Push food while doing fasted cardio.
    June 27 - Aug 1 (5 weeks) : 250mg test dose. Humalog pre workout to keep workout intensity up. Fasted cardio.

    This is a very tentative plan and can change at any time. I'm essentially just posting it here almost like its a note pad for me to come back to. The 5 week "off" period will be test only, I will keep insulin (humalog) in the mix to help maintain muscle but also to keep workouts where they need to be. The point of this period is just to give my body some sort of break from the high anabolics before starting a prep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I am slowly going to start training with more volume now. My strength has come back and I believe I can push further but in an attempt to avoid injury I will add more volume. Plus, I haven't done volume on heavy sets in quite some time.

    Never heard of stutter reps before until I just googled them. Have you had any luck with them? My training methods are for the most part adopted from mountain and DC style training.
    I've been doing it along with along of shocking principle techniques with my coach during quarantine and it's been incredible. Definitely something I wouldn't do part of a regular routine though. Maybe once every 2-3 months.

    Got a bit of an experiment running - curious how much water weight and fluff I am holding. Pulled MK first, then creatine for maybe first or second time since training. Next I pulled all artificial sweeteners based off an interview I saw with Brandon Curry. I had maybe 10-11 lbs of water weight.

    Next will do no carbs for 48 hours before next weigh in / measurements.

    Also went down a documentary rabbit hole between Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. Considering redoing my whole vitamin and supplement routine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I've been doing it along with along of shocking principle techniques with my coach during quarantine and it's been incredible. Definitely something I wouldn't do part of a regular routine though. Maybe once every 2-3 months.

    Got a bit of an experiment running - curious how much water weight and fluff I am holding. Pulled MK first, then creatine for maybe first or second time since training. Next I pulled all artificial sweeteners based off an interview I saw with Brandon Curry. I had maybe 10-11 lbs of water weight.

    Next will do no carbs for 48 hours before next weigh in / measurements.

    Also went down a documentary rabbit hole between Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. Considering redoing my whole vitamin and supplement routine
    Mind sharing what you learnt about vitamins and supplements? Hopefully its not too much to type or if you could let me know of the documentary that would be awesome.

    MK makes me hold a lot of water. I get crazy strength as well but I think its mainly from the extra water weight... I cut artificial sweeteners once I realized the impact they were having on my digestion and haven't looked back since. Im referring to constantly adding something to my water, I don't shy away from a diet soda here and there

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    Monday May 18 223.8
    Tuesday 223.4
    Wednesday 222.6
    Thursday 221.4

    Been having issues with digestion lately so I've had to reduce my calories quite a bit in an attempt to get the hunger going again. I feel hungrier today than I did yesterday and the day before but today I will aim for 4200 calories hoping that tomorrow I am ready to take down 5k minimum. The goal is to hold 220lb and I will likely be hovering right around there tomorrow.

    Attaching an updated back shot. Lats are getting wider which is my primary focus in regards to my back. I need to start focus on trap height as well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Mind sharing what you learnt about vitamins and supplements? Hopefully its not too much to type or if you could let me know of the documentary that would be awesome.

    MK makes me hold a lot of water. I get crazy strength as well but I think its mainly from the extra water weight... I cut artificial sweeteners once I realized the impact they were having on my digestion and haven't looked back since. Im referring to constantly adding something to my water, I don't shy away from a diet soda here and there
    I went through Netflix and Amazon Video and watched every documentary related to food. Probably not the smartest combination with THC.

    A good example used was fish oil. We take it to raise omega 3s. What really matters is the ratio of 3
    to 6. So rather than supplementing with fish oil instead we can bring down the omega 6's and the ratio corrects itself. Better quality foods and choices of foods accomplishes that.


    So if you are at 1 : 16, it's more healthy to bring it down to 1 : 4 instead of going to 4:16.

    My though process on removing supplements was that my HRT is currently 750mg of gear across anabolics + GH +GW. I suspect the creatine, glutamine, bcaa, and gatorade might be helping me 1-2% at best for recovery / performance. I don't think $500-600/year for 1% is worth it at my level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I went through Netflix and Amazon Video and watched every documentary related to food. Probably not the smartest combination with THC.

    A good example used was fish oil. We take it to raise omega 3s. What really matters is the ratio of 3
    to 6. So rather than supplementing with fish oil instead we can bring down the omega 6's and the ratio corrects itself. Better quality foods and choices of foods accomplishes that.


    So if you are at 1 : 16, it's more healthy to bring it down to 1 : 4 instead of going to 4:16.

    My though process on removing supplements was that my HRT is currently 750mg of gear across anabolics + GH +GW. I suspect the creatine, glutamine, bcaa, and gatorade might be helping me 1-2% at best for recovery / performance. I don't think $500-600/year for 1% is worth it at my level.
    I agree with that line of thinking. I already look at items lower in omega 6 and higher in omega 3. Grass fed beef, pasture raised eggs etc. I still add omega 3 on top after that to help with the ratio. I was always against omega 3-6-9 supplements for this reason.

    I also agree with the part of throwing out gatorade etc. I don't know how I feel about creatine, I guess if you supplement with salt then you have no issue anyways as Stan Efferdin has his guys use salt in place of creatine and has no issues but for myself those supplements are worth while simply due to insulin use. If no insulin, I would likely not be able to justify the cost. Its also more eye opening in a sense when you look at the yearly cost as opposed to monthly/weekly. Its easy to shrug off $2 per day until you realize thats $700 per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I agree with that line of thinking. I already look at items lower in omega 6 and higher in omega 3. Grass fed beef, pasture raised eggs etc. I still add omega 3 on top after that to help with the ratio. I was always against omega 3-6-9 supplements for this reason.

    I also agree with the part of throwing out gatorade etc. I don't know how I feel about creatine, I guess if you supplement with salt then you have no issue anyways as Stan Efferdin has his guys use salt in place of creatine and has no issues but for myself those supplements are worth while simply due to insulin use. If no insulin, I would likely not be able to justify the cost. Its also more eye opening in a sense when you look at the yearly cost as opposed to monthly/weekly. Its easy to shrug off $2 per day until you realize thats $700 per year.
    Yep I went the same way with food. Been just over 1 week no supplements and haven't seen a performance change. Going to keep monitoring though and set a reminder in 3 and 6 months to review.

    My supplement stack is very simple now

    - Methylated B Complex
    - Activated Multivitamin
    - Vitamin D3
    - Bone and Mineral Complex (1/4th serving)
    - Glucosamine (Has Chondroitin Sulfate and MSM, 1/4th serving)

    Only D3 + 4 pills.

    At my worst I remember buying 3x 7-day pill containers because I had to split all the pills into 3 portions for each day.

    I tweaked my diet - I pulled carbs from pasta, oats, rice etc to add more fruit and veggies. At 8-10 servings of fruit plus another 8-10 servings of veggies each day (both assorted) I got micro nutrition covered I think.
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    Finally decided on my blast. 18 weeks

    Test 40mg/day
    DHB - 60mg/day
    Mast 80mg/day
    Primo 150mg/day
    Cardarine 40mg/day

    After that going to pull back on HRT further and consider dropping my GH if recovery is 110% and I'm able to get proper testing done post pandemic. If I can remove GH I should be able to retire May 2021 which is very exciting.

    Considering the following for HRT:

    150mg Test
    90mg Deca
    180 or 225mg Primo
    150mg EQ
    900IU HCG
    10mg Anavar /day

    Still will not be using MK677, considering removing Cardarine or going down to 5-10mg/day. Cutting Var in half as well and again maybe no more GH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Yep I went the same way with food. Been just over 1 week no supplements and haven't seen a performance change. Going to keep monitoring though and set a reminder in 3 and 6 months to review.

    My supplement stack is very simple now

    - Methylated B Complex
    - Activated Multivitamin
    - Vitamin D3
    - Bone and Mineral Complex (1/4th serving)
    - Glucosamine (Has Chondroitin Sulfate and MSM, 1/4th serving)

    Only D3 + 4 pills.

    At my worst I remember buying 3x 7-day pill containers because I had to split all the pills into 3 portions for each day.

    I tweaked my diet - I pulled carbs from pasta, oats, rice etc to add more fruit and veggies. At 8-10 servings of fruit plus another 8-10 servings of veggies each day (both assorted) I got micro nutrition covered I think.
    I feel you on the excessive pill part. On contest prep I take so many its nuts. Off season its just D3 + multi vitamin for vitamins. I do also take citrus bergamot for help with lipids and omega 3 for the same reason. Just threw in astragalus not too long ago to help with blood pressure but the EQ keeps raising my BP no matter what I do... May need to drop it pretty soon here.

    I'm huge on fruits. I can easily make room for them with my high carb diet anyways. As for veggies, I'll be honest and say that I slack quite a bit. It's easier on prep but off season it's so difficult when you get full off broccoli and still have meat and rice to consume lol

    Which brand multi vitamin are you taking? I need a good one, just using one I found at an organic grocer store locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I feel you on the excessive pill part. On contest prep I take so many its nuts. Off season its just D3 + multi vitamin for vitamins. I do also take citrus bergamot for help with lipids and omega 3 for the same reason. Just threw in astragalus not too long ago to help with blood pressure but the EQ keeps raising my BP no matter what I do... May need to drop it pretty soon here.

    I'm huge on fruits. I can easily make room for them with my high carb diet anyways. As for veggies, I'll be honest and say that I slack quite a bit. It's easier on prep but off season it's so difficult when you get full off broccoli and still have meat and rice to consume lol

    Which brand multi vitamin are you taking? I need a good one, just using one I found at an organic grocer store locally.
    Whole Earth and Sea line from Natural Factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Whole Earth and Sea line from Natural Factors.
    Funny enough, thats the exact one the clerk at the local organic grocer recommended. I told her I'd wait to hear from you before buying it but now I'll definitely be giving it a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Funny enough, thats the exact one the clerk at the local organic grocer recommended. I told her I'd wait to hear from you before buying it but now I'll definitely be giving it a shot.
    Only good things to say about them. I was skeptical at first with vitamins in general cause who knows what the label says. They do 3rd party testing via Issura. Bought a bottle, contacted Natural Factors with batch number -they got in contact with Issurs for me who gave the analysis report to me.

    Heavy metal toxicity was way below the maximum threshold (talking 0.001PPM) and dose potency was between 98-102% of the labels claims
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    So I ended up switching things up as I was on the same compounds for quite some time. I haven't decided where I will dose my anabolics but they will consist of NPP and test. I start my bulk this coming Monday, will blast for 3-5 weeks, all depends on how I feel and then go straight into a cruise before a potential fall prep starts. I already started NPP at the end of last week to let it build up but I will significantly increase the dose as of Monday.

    Rough cycle idea as of Monday June 8.
    Test 1200, maybe 1600?
    NPP 600-750mg
    HGH 3.5iu
    Lantus 50iu
    Humalog 10iu. I still start this at breakfast, pre and post. Eventually I will add it to every meal. I may even start it at every meal but with 5iu.

    I am hovering between 217-220 right now so I was able to hold the weight that I wanted to. Now, I NEED to pass 230. On two separate blasts I hit 229, but not quite that 230. I will be aiming for 240 so wish me luck. No plan for orals as it does seem to zap my hunger. Maybe something towards the tail end for 10 days or so.

    I will post my actual cycle and diet once I have it set in stone. Right now I am just listening to my body and trying to ensure proper digestion. It gets a bit difficult when pushing 5k+ calories and will be even harder once I start pushing 6k again.

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    Woke up at 219.4lbs today.

    I had been dealing with a stomach virus for the past couple days but am starting to feel better today. I take Wednesdays off from training so the only change to my diet today will be the exclusion of my intra workout drink and of course the pre and post workout insulin . The only real change I made to my diet was adding juices. I was able to add just over 100g carbs by doing this. Much easier on the digestive system than increasing the rice intake.

    Now this will be my third time running lantus. Based on my last two experiences, I believe the majority of weight gain is water and is lost after a week of being off lantus. I will run lantus for 3 weeks followed by a week of dropping the lantus to see any changes if theres any noticeable changes in tissue. Personally I seem to like the method of running humalog with meals but this time we are combining that method with lantus in the AM with my HGH. None of this is new and I'm not inventing anything by any means but rather experimenting with ideas that others have used to see what fits my body best.

    T3 - 50mcg
    HGH - 3.5iu
    Lantus - 50iu
    T400 - 800mg
    Sustanon - 500mg
    NPP - 600mg
    Humalog - 10iu with 4 meals + 10iu pre on training days

    Diet:
    Meal 1: 9am
    90g cream of rice
    1 large egg
    1 cup egg whites
    1 scoop hydrolysate
    40g honey
    1 cup berries
    1 cup orange juice with pulp
    956 cals, 160 carb, 6 fat, 61 protein

    Meal 2: Noon
    1 scoops protein
    1 cup oats
    1 tbsp PB
    20g honey
    635 cals, 82 carb, 15 fat, 43 protein

    Meal 3: 130pm
    6oz chicken
    250g white rice
    1/2 avocado
    Mushrooms, spinach & broccoli
    1/2 cup organic cranberry juice
    780 cals, 101 carb, 19 fat, 52 protein

    Meal 4: 4pm
    7oz chicken thighs
    250g white rice
    1 tbsp coconut oil
    1 cup watermelon juice
    862 cals, 104 carb, 28 fat, 47 protein


    Intra workout shake:
    1 cup pure pomegranate juice
    1 scoops carb powder (cluster bomb)
    30g maltodextrin
    30g dextrose
    5g Leucine, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine
    470 cals, 118 carb, 0 fat, 1 protein


    Meal 5: 730pm
    1 scoop isolate protein
    1 cup oats
    20g honey
    2 cups krave cereal with almond milk
    860 cals, 142 carb, 16 fat, 44 protein

    Meal 6: 930pm
    7oz chicken thighs
    250g white rice
    1 tbsp coconut oil
    2 oranges
    803 cals, 95 carb, 27 fat, 47 protein

    5448 cals, 818 carb, 112 fat, 297 protein, 50 fibre

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