Failure vs. specified reps se(10-8-6-4)

[Nworb]

I was curious as to what the differance between doing a specified rep set and going to failure is. Does it somehow work the muscles more one way? Have you all noticed better gains one way?
Thank you in advance
--Nworb

[fitnessguy]

I'm a firm believer in the "go to failure plus one" (with a spot)
I see better results this way.

[bigbodyjosh]

I used to do the 10-8-6-4 for many years til i discovered the failure method from my good friend that competes. After i started training til failure my body has made a major change in a very positive way. I am definately pro-failure.

[FCECC2]

failure is the way to go!

[SwoleCat]

Failing to go to failure has been shown to lead ultimate failure from a means of constantly failing.

~SC~

[FCECC2]

Failing to go to failure has been shown to lead ultimate failure from a means of constantly failing.

~SC~

bahahahaahahahahah

[Nworb]

How exzactly do you do failure? How many reps should you aim to do in each set, and how manset should you Do?

Should I put on weight where I think i can do 10 then goto till failure, which maybe be around 12 or 13 reps
Then do it the same for 8 reps, just bumping up the weight?
I am a little confused here thanks.
---Nworb

[Chemical King]

How exzactly do you do failure? How many reps should you aim to do in each set, and how manset should you Do?

Should I put on weight where I think i can do 10 then goto till failure, which maybe be around 12 or 13 reps
Then do it the same for 8 reps, just bumping up the weight?
I am a little confused here thanks.
---Nworb

I started by finding the most weight I could lift once with good form, then take around 2/3 of that weight and lift to failure, but personaly I prefere the 10-8-6-4 method on heavy weight as Iam trying to bulk up, so i suppose it would depend on your goals

[Nworb]

Any others?

[bluethunder]

Training to failure can be 1 or 25 reps it all depends on your conditioning, weight & specific goal. However, I think the muscle should be "worked" first therefore 1-5 reps are out and 25 reps is not enough stimulation too little weight so keep it around 10-15 reps with the last to failure.

[Jantzen4k]

Failing to go to failure has been shown to lead ultimate failure from a means of constantly failing.

~SC~

ha!


i like failure around 8-10 reps

[carbs-rule]

I like drop sets with continuous failure on certain machines, such as the lat pull-down. It is kind of humbling when you look like you are struggling with all your might with 25 lbs on the lat pull down machine stack. I typically do failure on the last set only, usually getting 4 reps with a given wieght and dropping it down for around 16-20 reps total.

[Nworb]

ha!


i like failure around 8-10 reps

Do You only do this on your last set?
--Nworb

[TheNatural3456]

i think failure is just that...sometimes it takes me 13 or 14 reps to fail...sometiems it takes 5....dunnno if that helps...juss sayin that go until you cant do any more....dont aim for reps...

[TheNatural3456]

hahaha i juss read that post...im not sure how much sense it will make to you...but it made perfect sense to me...

[Big Poppa Pump]

To make it really simple for you, just keep doing your 10,8,6,4. But, make sure for each set you can;t do another rep. For example, on your first set (10 reps) make sure to choose a weight so that you can only do 10, and you need a spot to get the 11th one up. Do the same for all your sets. It's going to take a litle experimenting to find out what weight to use for every set, but you'll figure it out pretty quickly. Just make sure your increasing the weight every set. Good luck.

[Kärnfysikern]

I find that in periods I gain better if I stop one rep short of failure in assitance exercise when Im doing powerlifting(but I always go all out on the main lifts).

[Jantzen4k]

Do You only do this on your last set?
--Nworb

sometimes.


you gotta find right weight so you fail around 8 and spotter can help you to 10.

[Nworb]

ahhh now i get it thanks guys