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if you look at the mechanics or the shoulder muscles and the way the fibers run and actually flex, when you're doing shoulder presses the load is prety much taken by the anterior delt. I know that the medial head may act as a support group but by how much during pressing? enough to spark growth in that area? in my opinion the only way to properly add width to the medial head is with heavy laterals, and upright rows ...??? but someone correct me if im wrong.
I get better results from side laterals aswell. I'm not big on front presses; they seem to put alot of stress on my joints.
ive read that upright rows is better then presses for muscle involvement but i would say depends on person, some people can just do shoulder press and hardly anything else and develope nice shoulders while others need to try different methods...or should i say protocols....try different things and see what happens
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Originally Posted by TheDfromGC
do you mean upright rows are better for medial delt involvement???
IMO they are... supersetting upright rows with lateral raises is killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by crosby7117
from what ive read/heard they do involve the medial and rear delt more but as i said everyone is different, try them both and see what gets u better resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by crosby7117
Actually, when performing db presses on a 90deg bench and raising in a arch not quite touching the db ends no lockout,hands pronated(keeping stress on shoulders) works the medial delt and not the anterior as the primary muscle. Traps are also worked. I am sure some will disagree with my statement. Yes, the front delt is worked but not the primary. Begin lowering the bench angle starts to target the front delts a bit more and around 45-70deg really starts to hit it.
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Originally Posted by AandF6969
"works the medial delt and not the anterior as the primary muscle."Quote:
Originally Posted by bluethunder
this makes no sense...just one look at anatomy of the human body, and you'll see y it doesn't!
for medial i like to do seated military with dumbells but bring really pinch my lat's together and then i feel it hella mo' in the middle, knowhati'msayin'?
I told you some would disagree. You are incorrect. It is true both front and side delts get worked during the overdead db shoulder press but the side head is the strongest deltoid muscle of all three. You cannot lift to heavy relying on the front delts. The range of motion is greater in the db shoulder press with elbows flared out. Think of when you perform a lateral side raise bringing your arm up. Picture the movement of the db press. Do you see some similarites? You should. When your shoulder is adducted during the press(db brought up overhead) the side delt contracts and lengthens on the down negative but the front delt only stretches. If you wish to specifically target the front delt then front raises are your best option. Just as side lateral raises are for the medial side delts. But for overall mass yes, the press. And remember, the front delt gets worked with many chest exercises because the front delt is tied to the pecs and work in harmony. But to answer your original question" db shoulder presses for width?" I just told you , side delts give width, not front, so YES shoulder presses done correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by crosby7117