deadlifts

[HOLLYWOOD]

when do you suggest to do them, 1st in back routine or last???

[bluethunder]

If you are talking about regular deads then many do in the beginning after a warmup like hyper extentions.

[Hypertrophy]

I prefer Rack Pulls.
I do:
Bar Bent Rows
Chins
Rack Pulls
Seated Low Pulley Rows

[HOLLYWOOD]

ok another question.... should i use the powerlifter-grip (over and under) or both hands over??? the reason i ask is because i do not want uneven back and trap developement!

[Dude-Man]

first on lowerback and hamstrings day.

[Prime]

ok another question.... should i use the powerlifter-grip (over and under) or both hands over??? the reason i ask is because i do not want uneven back and trap developement!

i use the alternate grip simply because i can lift alot more that way. My grip isnt good enough the other way.

[symatech]

I do them last, because after I'm done I usually want to puke, and feel sick for at least 20 minutes; same with squats. I could probably lift more if I did them first, but then the rest of my workout would go to hell because I'd be holding back.

[ReX357]

I do them first after some Hyperextension sets to warmup. And I usually use overhand grip until I hit the point where I need the powerlifter grip to go up in weight.

[*Narkissos*]

either first in my back workout...

Or 1st in my hamstring workout.... powerlifter's grip

[cjp85]

I think it depends on how much you are developed in the areas that deads work the most. I worked out for a few months before I started doing deads and when I first started doing them, I was done. Way too sore to get good sets of rows and pull-ups in, so I started doing them last in my workout. After I started developing from them I started doing them first and get much better sets done because I'm not already sore. The rest of the workout is still harder after deads, but I can still manage quality sets.

[cjp85]

And if you're worried about your grip, just switch your grip every set. Once you start going heavier it will become much harder to use both hands overhand, so I would suggest learning the over/under grip and switching every set or getting some straps.

[HOLLYWOOD]

well i do use straps but i still find that i can use heavier wieght using the over/under grip vs. the over/over grip, but i dont want to develope uneven! thats my only worry about the powerlifter grip! could this even happen tho?

[HOLLYWOOD]

also with 4-6reps should a belt be a must??? i dont go to absolute failure when doing deads becasue i dont want to hurt my back so is it really necessary???

[cjp85]

If you switch your grip every set there shouldn't be a problem at all. Unless your trying to lift a very heavy weight, I wouldn't use the belt. Not using a belt will develop muscles that stabilize you and belts tend to keep your core from being worked as much during the excercise.

[znak]

I use straps (broke the little finger on both hands so my grip is not up to holding that much weight with three fingers.)

I also use a belt on the last two sets. I lifted for a couple years without a belt and found that it was really thickening my waist and I was getting kind of boxy.

I do them first on lower back/hams day.

I know what symatech is talking about, so I take a five minute break to get my pulse down after deads before my next exercise. I typically look like I have taken a shower after them.

I be one sweaty mofo!

[HOLLYWOOD]

I use straps (broke the little finger on both hands so my grip is not up to holding that much weight with three fingers.)

I also use a belt on the last two sets. I lifted for a couple years without a belt and found that it was really thickening my waist and I was getting kind of boxy.

I do them first on lower back/hams day.

I know what symatech is talking about, so I take a five minute break to get my pulse down after deads before my next exercise. I typically look like I have taken a shower after them.

I be one sweaty mofo!

thats what i do not want! i want to keep my waiste as small as possible!

[J.S.N.]

i was usins straps for awhile and i do not recommend it. my grip stregth really went to **** over the course of like 1.5-2 months using straps. i just use an overhand grip until i hit 225 (my second warmup set) and then use an alternating grip and change it every time.

[Dozerd]

First on back day. I use power lifter grip no staps or belt. I do reps until i go over 315. Then i do singles. Meaning I stand up after evey lift for 2secs bend down regrip and lift.

[phwSSJ]

I do them last, because after I'm done I usually want to puke, and feel sick for at least 20 minutes; same with squats. I could probably lift more if I did them first, but then the rest of my workout would go to hell because I'd be holding back.

Yup, after dead lifts its over for me.
But I like to do squats first, they dont get me wore out like deads do!

you gotta find out what works for you best and go from there!

[brew035]

when do you suggest to do them, 1st in back routine or last???

First but I usually have to take it easy for a while after before I tear back in to the weights. I might just sit and have some water. I know i shouldnt sit but **** they kick my ass.