Considered Strong?

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08-05-2005, 05:55 PM
SprinterOne

Considered Strong?

I am just wondering when many of you would consider someone strong in the following lifts:

Clean
Snatch
Deads
Squats
Bench

Now, I don't mean elite level strong, but above average strong. I know the answer will probably be different for each lift, and you can list your answer in terms of bodyweight. For instance, in weightlifting a double bodyweight clean is considered extremely good. So what would be similar comparisons for the others?

Here are my thoughts, to get it started:

Clean - 1.5 x bodyweight
Snatch - 1.25 x bodyweight
Deads - 3 x bodyweight
Squats - 2.5 x bodyweight
Bench - 1.75 x bodyweight

Anyone else?
08-05-2005, 06:18 PM
chest6

For above average-
clean-1.25
snatch-1
deads-2
squat-2
bench-1.5
08-05-2005, 06:55 PM
ReX357

Excuse my ignorance but what's a "Snatch"?
08-05-2005, 07:46 PM
19inchpythons

snatch is slang for slit
08-05-2005, 07:50 PM
19inchpythons

Strong Bench- 400-450

Really Strong- 450-510

Super Strong- 510-600

Superhuman Strong- 600-700

(all shirtless and without back more than an inch or two off bench)
08-05-2005, 07:51 PM
19inchpythons

Squat- anything in the 450-600 range for reps depending on how often you work legs
08-05-2005, 07:52 PM
19inchpythons

Deadlifts- anything in the 550-650 range is excellent
08-05-2005, 07:54 PM
19inchpythons

oh...i mean these are ideal lifts for Bodybuilders,not fitness buffs or other athlethes
for a baseball or football player weighing 220, a 350 bench is excellent
08-05-2005, 07:55 PM
305GUY

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReX357

Excuse my ignorance but what's a "Snatch"?

Snatch is slang for vagina. :wg:

J/k heres a link with some snatch.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...hp?Name=Snatch
08-05-2005, 08:15 PM
SprinterOne

I don't think you can just say a weight is a strong lift. If lifter A weighs 150 and lifter B weighs 350, then a 400lb bench is a huge difference in strength between the two. That is why I asked in relation to bodyweight since I think this is a better measure of how strong you are.
08-05-2005, 08:33 PM
19inchpythons

i'm speaking in generalities to a group of primarily bodybuilders/powerlifters, sorry- 2 x bodyweight is always an awesome achievement for anyone in the bench, and 2.5 x bodyweight in the squat
08-05-2005, 08:38 PM
19inchpythons

My personal goals do not include 1 rep maxes right now...i just want a 365 x4 bench and 19.25" biceps @ 206 pound body w/ a 32"waist
08-05-2005, 08:42 PM
19inchpythons

you, personally at a lean 175 should be able to bench 325-360 squat 400+ and deadlift 400+
08-05-2005, 08:43 PM
19inchpythons

if you have a large build, that is
08-05-2005, 08:48 PM
SprinterOne

Dude, I can't respond to your posts, can't you keep them all in the same one? LOL. Anyways, what the heck do you mean by a large build? 175 is 175, isn't it?
08-06-2005, 01:53 PM
SinCityMan

Maybe i am a realist but at any weight being able to lift over 2 times your bodyweight is quite the achievement. at 175 squating 400+ is well in excess of 2.25 of that body weight and a 360 bench is over 2 times that body weight. So yeah i would have to say thats quite strong! Anyway i always thought a good measure of being strong is being able to rep a certain weight. Maybe like 1.25-1.75 of bodyweight for 6-8 reps depending on the lift.
08-12-2005, 06:09 PM
19inchpythons

have you seen a short guy who weighs 175 next to a tall guy? you can see that the shorter guy appears to be much wider and more muscular if he is lean
08-13-2005, 08:18 AM
Squatman51

Quote:

Originally Posted by chest6

For above average-
clean-1.25
snatch-1
deads-2
squat-2
bench-1.5

i think this sounds about right
08-14-2005, 06:31 PM
19inchpythons

i see plenty of skiny little pricks benching close to 300 pounds... 1.5 x bodyweight ain't shit for a true weightlifter!!!
08-14-2005, 10:28 PM
decadbal

other than in HS. i dont think strength matters..
08-15-2005, 12:45 AM
SprinterOne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decadbal

other than in HS. i dont think strength matters..

Well, that would be like me saying size doesn't matter. Athletes, powerlifters, weightlifters, etc. probably all think strength matters.
08-15-2005, 09:39 AM
decadbal

Quote:

Originally Posted by SprinterOne

Well, that would be like me saying size doesn't matter. Athletes, powerlifters, weightlifters, etc. probably all think strength matters.

about as much as who can hold their breath the longest..lol
08-15-2005, 10:27 AM
Evil Predator

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decadbal

other than in HS. i dont think strength matters..

+1

All that ever does is get you hurt. I work out with the max I can, all the time, but pushing the envelope just does bad things.

I can tell you that I cant Clean - 1.5x,Snatch - 1.25x, Deadlift - 2x Squats - 2.5x or Bench - 1.75 x my 291 lbs (as of this morning). Im a big boy, but it looks like i got alot of practice to do if im gonna be strong..

----->me :1laugh: <------strong people

:lol:
08-15-2005, 08:18 PM
SprinterOne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decadbal

about as much as who can hold their breath the longest..lol

Uhm, so are you saying these athletes don't care about strength?
08-16-2005, 05:51 AM
IronFreakX

Quote:

Originally Posted by SprinterOne

Uhm, so are you saying these athletes don't care about strength?

no they do

thats all i train for..strength and a low bf% along with sprinting and swimming and NO not in 65-75% MHR :lol:

Not everyone wants to be 220lbs with 7% bf...well not me @least :7up: