i did not mention i wanted to get to 185lbs, now i understand how to do that but does anyone have a diet that is good, and would work for my situation mentioned in my post bulking help, like can someone give me the typical meal plan and even good training spilt that works monday-friday so maybe i can do the diet that way. something proven i guess. oh and yes my goal is one day to compete in bodybuilding shows...thanks for the help