Critique my workout...Is it for MASS...?

[needbigguns]

My workout's basically Big Kevs workout with one or two things changed round...Iv just started a cycle i would like to gain as much mass as possible, its definitly ****ing me up in the gym - this is my second day doing it but my gym partner has questioned weather or not it is for allout MASS (which is what we want) - due to there being some sets of 15-20... Heres the workout :

Monday: Back/Abs

Back:
1) Bent barbell rows- 4 sets,
6-8-10-12 reps

2) Hammer strength lat pulldowns-4 sets,
8-10-12-12 reps

3) Seated rows-4 sets,
10-12-12-15 reps

4) Wide grip lat pulldown-3 sets,
10-10-12 reps

Abs:
1) Weighted Abs – 3 sets



Tuesday: Chest

Chest
1) Flat barbell bench press-4 sets,
2-5-8-10 reps

2) Incline dumbbell press-4 sets,
6-8-12-12 reps

3) Pec deck/DB flys -3 sets,
10-16 reps

4) Decline Bench press-3 sets,
8-12 reps

5) Cable crossovers-3 sets,
12-20 reps



Wednesday: shoulders/Traps
Shoulders:
1) DB/Barbell shoulder press-4 sets,
4-6-8-10 reps

2) Upright rows -4 sets,
8-10-10-12 reps

3) Rear delt machine/Inverted pec deck-4 sets,
8-10-10-12 reps

4) Side lateral raise machine-3 sets,
12-15-20 reps

Traps:
1) Shrugs- 4 sets,
12-20, reps



Thursday: Biceps/Triceps/Abs
Superset 1:
1) Straight close grip barbell curl-4 sets,
4-6-8-10 reps

2) Scull crushers-4 sets,
4-6-8-10 reps

Superset 2:
1) Dumbbell Preacher curls-3 sets,
8-10-10-12 reps

2) Cable tricep pressdowns-3 sets,
8-10-10-12 reps

Abs:
1) Weighted Abs – 3 sets



Friday : Legs
SwoleSquats Training Program

[taiboxa]

i dont like ur chest and back day... too much redundency
no deads?
u only relaly need 1 row.. 1 pulldown
and for chest i wouldnt do more than 2 presses and a fly
IMO ur doing to much for MASS but hey if it works thats great

[needbigguns]

What do you mean by redundency...?
Yes i thought the same about the deads...What should i swap in there for deads ?
Well hopefully it will help me build a huge chest this cycle allthough i think if i was not "ON" this workout could be overkill...but as im chemically supieror to most hopefully i can handle it lol...

So im right in thinking this is an allout MASS workout then ?
Thanks Taiboxa...

BTW how many posts do you need to get before you can change the status under your name...for example yours is "BigBoned Red Ninja!"...when i hit 1k ov posts can i do this ?

[needbigguns]

BUMP...Regarding my training prog NOT about forum rankings...

[j martini]

Redundancy means doing two exercises taht are designed to accomplish the same thing. Examples would be wide grip lat pulldown and hammer strength lat pulldowns. Or Barbell rows and seated rows.

[needbigguns]

Ah right i see...so far this week iv done Arms, Chest and Shoulders...all three are aching more than ever before, it seams to be working well for me im crippled the next day !

Have a look at my arms day...i think i may have done it wrong tho, there both supersetted, i thought i knew what this ment but i dont think i do to be honest, i just did superset 1 followed by superset two...is this right ?

[GunTotingHipGangster]

Ah right i see...so far this week iv done Arms, Chest and Shoulders...all three are aching more than ever before, it seams to be working well for me im crippled the next day !

it could be that you're more sore than ever from the juice
in my opinion i wouldnt change your workout the same time you start your cycle, lift the way you have seen gains from, try the new workout after your cycle is over

and i find it interesting that you increase reps with sets, i always start with high reps and digress to low reps, but thats just me, i have no actual relevant info reguarding this style being as i have not tried it.

Good Luck!

[taiboxa]

i would look into HIT personally

[Carlos_E]

Here:

Monday
Quads – 12 sets total
Close Stance Leg Press
Close Stance Hack Squats (ass to floor)
Leg Extensions
Squats or Front Squats

Tuesday
Chest – 9-12 sets total
Incline Barbell or Dumbells
Incline Flys
Dips
Machine Press

Triceps 9 Sets Total
Overhead Extensions (dumbbell or cable)
Push Downs or Reverse Push Downs
Kickbacks or Dumbell Extensions


Wednesday
Off

Thursday
Back – 4 Exercises, 3-4 Sets Total
Deadlifts
Barbell row
Dumbell Row
Chins
Seated Rows
Pullovers
Pull downs

Traps
4 Sets of Shrugs


Friday
Delts – 9-12 sets total
Bar or Dumbell Press
Side Lateral Raises
Upright Rows

Biceps 9-12 sets total
Barbell Curls
Machine Preacher or Dumbells
Hammer Curls

Saturday
Hamstrings - 4 Exercises, 3-4 Sets Total
Still Leg Deadlifts
Standing Leg Curls
Laying Leg Curls
Seated Leg Curls

Sunday
Off

LEG WORKOUT

Leg Extensions
Set 1 – 10 to 12 reps
Set 2 – 10 to 12 reps

Hack Squats - Close Stance (knees and feet together)
Pyramiding up
Set 1 – 8 to 12 reps
Set 2 – 8 to 12 reps
Set 3 – 9 to 12 reps
Pyramiding down (drop a plate each set)
Set 4 – 6 reps
Set 5 – 4 to 6 reps
Set 6 – 4 to 6 reps
Set 7 – 6 to 8 reps

Leg Press - Close Stance (knees and feet together)
Pyramiding Up (Set 3 being max weight)
Set 1 – 8 to 12 reps
Set 2 – 8 to 12 reps
Set 3 – 8 to 12 reps

Free Squat - Deep
Set 1 – 8 to 12 reps
Set 2 – 8 to 12 reps

Front Squats - Close Stance (knees and feet together)
Set 1 – 12 to 15 reps
Set 2 – 12 to 15 reps

[biglouie250]

nice carlos.

def need the deadlifts in there, and i like pullups instead of pulldowns. i feel like they do more for me anyway. No ego needed there, do as many as you can. even if its only 4-6 reps, if you can do 3-4 sets of that you'll still be nice and sore assuming you use proper form and dont "jump".

i tried SC's scorch method with back and bi's this week, search for that ......felt killer. bi's still sore 2 days later.

[Carlos_E]

nice carlos.

def need the deadlifts in there, and i like pullups instead of pulldowns. i feel like they do more for me anyway. No ego needed there, do as many as you can. even if its only 4-6 reps, if you can do 3-4 sets of that you'll still be nice and sore assuming you use proper form and dont "jump".

i tried SC's scorch method with back and bi's this week, search for that ......felt killer. bi's still sore 2 days later.

I posted my workout. It was written for me by a pro. Base your workout off of it and make changes where needed.

[biglouie250]

I posted my workout. It was written for me by a pro. Base your workout off of it and make changes where needed.

yea the one thing i learned is that the same things dont work the same for different people. your workout looks like a great primer to base a routine around. looking diesel in the avatar.

[L.Priest]

Yeah, just curious...why no deads or bench?

[Carlos_E]

yea the one thing i learned is that the same things dont work the same for different people. your workout looks like a great primer to base a routine around. looking diesel in the avatar.

Thanks!

[needbigguns]

But is the above workout i posted good for mass?

[S.P.G]

But is the above workout i posted good for mass?

That depends if all the other parts of the equation are in place.

You could have the best training program in the world but it would not do you much good if the...

Intensity, Progression, Rest, Consistency, are not in order.

Obviously you can make productive choices when it comes to exercises by staying with mass building Multiple joint movements.

[MartyMcFly]

I like carlos's routine except for the tri's. My bi's do not grow for shiite so I rely on tri's to pick up the slack. Since I started doing Weighted dips as straight up as possible and close grip board presses my tri's have exploded. I do board presses instead of regular CGB because I do tri's two day's after chest and the board takes the chest out of the press. Just my .02.

[L.Priest]

Tuesday: Chest

Chest
1) Flat barbell bench press-4 sets,
2-5-8-10 reps

2) Incline dumbbell press-4 sets,
6-8-12-12 reps

3) Pec deck/DB flys -3 sets,
10-16 reps

4) Decline Bench press-3 sets,
8-12 reps

5) Cable crossovers-3 sets,
12-20 reps