Shoulders

[AlphaLdr]

What are some good excersises to built meat on top of the shoulder, where the collar bone lay's. Any good ideas?

[biglouie250]

your talking about your traps? if so the best exercise that builds the traps IMO is dead lifts which I do on back day. on shoulder day i do 3-4 sets of light dumbell shrugs (70lbs each arm) for 15-20 reps. my traps have gotten bigger doing this method. i think a lot of people overtrain the traps and do more sets then is needed. rest, and good diet are also key here.

[FullMoonHowlingWolf]

Heavy barbell or dumbbell shrugs.

[lzicc]

If you are talking about traps, deads and shrugs.

[SuperChicken1]

If you are talking about side delts however, and overhead presses are not getting it for you, give wide grip upright rows (only as high as your nipples) a go. they work great for me without the sholder impingement you can get coming all the way up to your chin with narrow grip as they are usually prescribed.



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[AlphaLdr]

Sweet, thanks for the additional info. Yeah the delts are super hard to put weight onto. same with my wrists and foreafrms.

[pumpd4lif]

my delt work out goes like this

sitting by ladderal raises(to the side)
20 lbs dumbells 15 reps
25 lbs dumbells 15 reps
30lbs dumbells as many as possible

military press in the front
135 15 reps
raise weight 20lbs for next 2 to 3 sets till ur exhausting muscle befor 15 reps

standing lateral raises(in the front)
30 lbs dumbells 15 reps
40 lbs dumbells 15
50 till failure

then 2 rear delt exercises 3 sets for each exercise

finish with shrugs
180 lbs to 20
270 lbs to 15
360 as many as posible

u really dont have to go heavy on the first exercise for this is used to pre exhaust the muscle

u can peep my results in the members cycle results picture forum LET THERE BE SEPERATION) the pics are under 7th week of enth and var cycle#2 side delts